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I dont really feel like converting hand history but here it is. 25NL on Bodog. Its the second hand I've played at the table so no reads at all. Min. raised with me on the BB so i call with 7 2 of hearts. Flop comes all hearts. I bet pot ($1.25 i think) and its raised to $6 by the min. raiser. I shove putting him on any set, or any top pair with the ace of hearts...either case, I'm way ahead. He flips over the nut flush and I'm drawing dead.
To be honest I think I stack off here about, well always...especially with no read at all. Is this just a huge leak? |
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Thumb rule: Dont ever fold sets, flushes, or top 2 on monocolored board for 100bb
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Thumb rule: Dont ever fold sets, flushes, or top 2 on monocolored board for 100bb [/ QUOTE ] Is this true? Can anyone link to some analysis of this statement to show that this is true? +EV |
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[ QUOTE ] Thumb rule: Dont ever fold sets, flushes, or top 2 on monocolored board for 100bb [/ QUOTE ] Is this true? Can anyone link to some analysis of this statement to show that this is true? +EV [/ QUOTE ] i doubt anyone has done statistical analysis on this, but i'd be about 99% sure its true at nl25 |
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Thumb rule: thumb rules are for people who want to keep playing with their eyes closed [/ QUOTE ] FYP. There are no thumb rules in poker. You could techincally fold a straight flush if your opponents range clearly only consists of a higher one. Just an extreme example to explain what i meant. OP, you probably shouldn't fold your flopped flush. However, you gotta give board texture, positions and all that. And fold preflop. |
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[ QUOTE ] Thumb rule: thumb rules are for people who want to keep playing with their eyes closed [/ QUOTE ] FYP. There are no thumb rules in poker. You could techincally fold a straight flush if your opponents range clearly only consists of a higher one. Just an extreme example to explain what i meant. OP, you probably shouldn't fold your flopped flush. However, you gotta give board texture, positions and all that. And fold preflop. [/ QUOTE ] Seriously think about this hand for a second. You called a min-raise in the BB with 2h7h. When you called, what exactly were you hoping to flop? A pair? Ok now how to proceed? Two pair? Pretty unlikely, but great when you hit it. A flush? Pretty unlikely, but great when you hit it. So you played a hand that wasn't going to hit many flops, and when it does you aren't going to know what to do. Sometimes it hits its YAHTZEE flops though. Here you hit one. And now you are thinking about folding??? Do you see the problem with this line of thinking. "I am going to play a crappy hand OOP PF in hopes of hitting a flop...Oh now I hit one!...I fold." Fold PF and don't fold on the flop. |
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Do you see the problem with this line of thinking. "I am going to play a crappy hand OOP PF in hopes of hitting a flop...Oh now I hit one!...I fold."
Thanks for being a smart ass. Real productive. The crux of my question is do I run into top 2, a set or top pair with a nut flush draw enough times for a shove here to be profitable? |
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Do you see the problem with this line of thinking. "I am going to play a crappy hand OOP PF in hopes of hitting a flop...Oh now I hit one!...I fold." Thanks for being a smart ass. Real productive. The crux of my question is do I run into top 2, a set or top pair with a nut flush draw enough times for a shove here to be profitable? [/ QUOTE ] I was being anything but a smart ass. Just pointing out that if you are going to play a hand like 72s in hopes of hitting a big hand, you have to play that hand when it hits. Otherwise you are just spewing. Thus, I think my post was real productive, if you think about what I am actually telling you. |
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Thanks for being a smart ass. Real productive. The crux of my question is do I run into top 2, a set or top pair with a nut flush draw enough times for a shove here to be profitable? [/ QUOTE ] He's not being a smart ass. If you're going to call with crap and then fold when you hit the exact flop you were hoping for, you're going to lose a lot of money. He's trying to help. |
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Do you see the problem with this line of thinking. "I am going to play a crappy hand OOP PF in hopes of hitting a flop...Oh now I hit one!...I fold." Thanks for being a smart ass. [/ QUOTE ] lol ... he isn't being a smart ass ... he said what you said. You got a dream flop ... get it in there. |
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