Collusion in canterbury 30/60 game?

[jaroot]

I was up at grand casino in Millacs this past weekend and overheard a guy talking about how he refuses to play the 30/60 game at canterbury because of collusion between some of the regulars? Is this just some donk talking out his a$$ or is there some validity to it? If so.. what sort of collusion?

[ProfessorBen]

LOLOLOLOOLOLOOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLO. PokerBob care to offer his thoughts?

[ProfessorBen]

Found the topic:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...ue#Post10592547

If this person you met is indeed Bicycles, I think he deserves a B_BAN.

[emerson]

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I was up at grand casino in Millacs this past weekend and overheard a guy talking about how he refuses to play the 30/60 game at canterbury because of collusion between some of the regulars? Is this just some donk talking out his a$$ or is there some validity to it? If so.. what sort of collusion?

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I've never been there but it would surprise me if there is not a good bit of it as I've never failed to see it at most places. What makes a game beatable to strangers is if there are enough fish to compensate for the collusion among regulars. There is a very big variety of things that they do which they don't even consider collusion. Things such as playing tough in a multi-way pot and then checking it down after the stranger folds. Raising and three betting to steal blinds, posts, and especially kill pots and collection pots.

On my last trip to commerce I was playing 60/120. A guy comes over and starts talking to the guy next to me. I hear him say, "I had pocket queens on that other hand. I didn't raise because I didn't want to end up heads up with you. I was trying to get your attention."

They are very blantant and don't even think they are doing anything wrong.

[ActionBob]

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On my last trip to commerce I was playing 60/120. A guy comes over and starts talking to the guy next to me. I hear him say, "I had pocket queens on that other hand. I didn't raise because I didn't want to end up heads up with you. I was trying to get your attention."

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Usually people that stupid wouldn't even understand how to collude correctly.

-ActionBob

[emerson]

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On my last trip to commerce I was playing 60/120. A guy comes over and starts talking to the guy next to me. I hear him say, "I had pocket queens on that other hand. I didn't raise because I didn't want to end up heads up with you. I was trying to get your attention."

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Usually people that stupid wouldn't even understand how to collude correctly.

-ActionBob

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"Collude correctly", that's good. Yes, there are many who may be amatures at collusion and do not get the maximum gain that could be derived by collusion experts. They are colluders just the same and have rough understandings of various things they can do when in the pot together that gives them an edge over 3rd parties.

[Vehn]

no one checks down or softplays each other in that game ever other than dumbazzes luke and john.

[hoppscot22]

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no one checks down or softplays each other in that game ever other than dumbazzes luke and john.

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haha, but we never do any collusion, we just dont like to take eachothers dollars

[gostrder]

I've never played at canterbury but live close by. whats your take on the entire operation?

[Bad Lobster]

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There is a very big variety of things that they do which they don't even consider collusion. Things such as playing tough in a multi-way pot and then checking it down after the stranger folds. Raising and three betting to steal blinds, posts, and especially kill pots and collection pots.



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I'm not sure I'm convinced any of this puts the stranger at a disadvantage, if he's wise to what they're doing and compensates. You have to put them on somewhat different hand ranges and adjust your implied odds.