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Old 07-25-2007, 09:13 AM
Panic__NL Panic__NL is offline
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Default NL50 KK what to do on flop

Villian is 10/10/0 over only 20 hands, I am just at this table so no image created yet.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $49.95
UTG+1: $17.55
CO: $72.40
Button: $54.50
SB: $52.05
BB: $75.95

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($5.75, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $14.5</font>, SB folds, Hero 3bets/push/call
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:29 AM
Rednas Rednas is offline
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Default Re: NL50 KK what to do on flop

I put villain on a set or a massive draw, call me a nit but I fold in this spot.

If you decide to play, just go all in because you are OOP and the turnplay would be very difficult.
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:36 AM
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Default Re: NL50 KK what to do on flop

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If you decide to play, just go all in because you are OOP and the turnplay would be very difficult.

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If you decide to play, you say that Villain has a set a low% of the time; which must mean he has overcards/a flushdraw/a JTo like hand. In all those cases seeing a turn will increase your equity a lot.

I don't know how to play a blank turn as I think all options suck, but it makes sense to see one, right?
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:37 AM
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Default Re: NL50 KK what to do on flop

What's the perceived downside to pushing here? Looks incredibly standard.
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:43 AM
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What's the perceived downside to pushing here? Looks incredibly standard.

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Well, Villain kinda knows we have an overpair so just folds everything that we beats and calls with the rest. The only worse hand would be QQ or a naked flush draw; all flushdraws+something are about a 50/50 flip.
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:45 AM
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What's the perceived downside to pushing here? Looks incredibly standard.

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Well, Villain kinda knows we have an overpair so just folds everything that we beats and calls with the rest. The only worse hand would be QQ or a naked flush draw; all flushdraws+something are about a 50/50 flip.

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Unknown NL50 villain will call with most jacks.
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:48 AM
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Unknown NL50 villain will call with most jacks.

[/ QUOTE ]Maybe I'm overestimating villains but he would coldcall KJ and raise the flop with it? I could see him coldcalling and calling the flop but not raising it.
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:37 AM
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Default Re: NL50 KK what to do on flop

shove!!!!!!!!!!!! villains range could be qj\kj\aj str8 draw flush draw. def ahead of his range, shove.
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:42 AM
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Default Re: NL50 KK what to do on flop

call/ call shove on turn
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:43 AM
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Default Re: NL50 KK what to do on flop

if villian has anything more than a naked draw, it is a flip, shoving a blank turn increases our equity.
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