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Old 07-24-2007, 03:47 PM
mused01 mused01 is offline
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Default I\'m sorry Ms. Jackson. I\'M JUST FOR REALLZZZ

Villain is holdemhux a 17/10/2 solid tag.

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UTG ($352.55)
MP ($212)
Button ($192)
Hero ($396.70)
BB ($287)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $28</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $20.

Flop: ($58) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $38</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $132</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $368.7</font>,

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Old 07-24-2007, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: I\'m sorry Ms. Jackson. I\'M JUST FOR REALLZZZ

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Old 07-24-2007, 06:10 PM
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17/10? Would he really do this with QQ/JJ? AhKh isn't possible. I don't know, I feel like this is a set or AA a lot of the time.
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Old 07-24-2007, 06:12 PM
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Default Re: I\'m sorry Ms. Jackson. I\'M JUST FOR REALLZZZ

This deep he may call pf with suited connectors but I really doubt he raises with them UTG, I think this is a set much more often than FD/OESD.
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Old 07-24-2007, 06:16 PM
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17/10? Would he really do this with QQ/JJ? AhKh isn't possible. I don't know, I feel like this is a set or AA a lot of the time.

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Give him the very tight range of basically 22, 99+:


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.581% 50.88% 01.70% 14103 472.50 { 99+, 22 }
Hand 1: 47.419% 45.71% 01.70% 12672 472.50 { KdKh }

I think this has to be A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] sometimes.

Do you seriously want to fold this? Cause that's gross.
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Old 07-24-2007, 06:22 PM
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Default Re: I\'m sorry Ms. Jackson. I\'M JUST FOR REALLZZZ

fwiw though bilbo, I dunno if he raises 99-QQ on this board
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Old 07-24-2007, 06:27 PM
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fwiw though bilbo, I dunno if he raises 99-QQ on this board

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You mean he would not raise middle or top set!?

Then it's an even easier push.
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Old 07-24-2007, 06:53 PM
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17/10? Would he really do this with QQ/JJ? AhKh isn't possible. I don't know, I feel like this is a set or AA a lot of the time.

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Give him the very tight range of basically 22, 99+:


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.581% 50.88% 01.70% 14103 472.50 { 99+, 22 }
Hand 1: 47.419% 45.71% 01.70% 12672 472.50 { KdKh }

I think this has to be A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] sometimes.

Do you seriously want to fold this? Cause that's gross.

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Not stacking off 175bb with KK on this flop vs a nittish tag is gross? The QQ/JJ should be much more discounted than KK+/TT/99/22 because a 17/10 doesn't stack off 175bb with them in this situation like ever ime.

Against this range we have 38% equity and we need 41%: QQ+,TT-99,22,AhQh,AhJh

And leaving JJ out equals QQ/JJ being 50% less likely than KK+/TT/99/22 and that's definately a fair assumption. I think villain is raising a set on a drawy flop like this that's superb for stacking a high PP very often. And this deep I think he'll often peel the flop with a draw, but there's really not that many draw combos anyway.
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Old 07-24-2007, 07:00 PM
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17/10? Would he really do this with QQ/JJ? AhKh isn't possible. I don't know, I feel like this is a set or AA a lot of the time.

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Give him the very tight range of basically 22, 99+:


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.581% 50.88% 01.70% 14103 472.50 { 99+, 22 }
Hand 1: 47.419% 45.71% 01.70% 12672 472.50 { KdKh }

I think this has to be A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] sometimes.

Do you seriously want to fold this? Cause that's gross.

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Not stacking off 175bb with KK on this flop vs a nittish tag is gross? The QQ/JJ should be much more discounted than KK+/TT/99/22 because a 17/10 doesn't stack off 175bb with them in this situation like ever ime.

Against this range we have 38% equity and we need 41%: QQ+,TT-99,22,AhQh,AhJh

And leaving JJ out equals QQ/JJ being 50% less likely than KK+/TT/99/22 and that's definately a fair assumption. I think villain is raising a set on a drawy flop like this that's superb for stacking a high PP very often. And this deep I think he'll often peel the flop with a draw, but there's really not that many draw combos anyway.

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huh?

You start by saying NOT stacking off is gross, and then end by saying most draws flat call and sets raise?

I'm confused as usual.
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Old 07-24-2007, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: I\'m sorry Ms. Jackson. I\'M JUST FOR REALLZZZ

your flop bet is too weak. you should bet like 50 on the flop.
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