We both saw her card!

[PokerJans]

Stupid LHE game in Oceanside, CA last week where I am getting my head kicked in.

As the dealer is pitching the second card around to each player the one seat accidentally hits the second card of the player in the two seat.

Rather than landing and gliding across the table the card is redirected by the player in the one seat and hits the felt in a way that it is totally exposed to the table. Imagine a card vertically standing on its edge before it falls flat.

Seat 1 and myself both say we clearly saw the card even though it was never actually laid face up on the table.

After about 30-45 seconds of people saying mis deal, mis deal, I actually announce the card that I saw because the dealer is just sitting there doing nothing.

Eventually the floor is called and apparently this does not qualify as a misdeal rather the women has to keep the card and play the hand out as normal even though I announced one of her cards to the table.

Fortunately she folded, I apologized, she understood, and all was well at the table.

However this rule seems ridiculous. Is this a standard ruling by the floor? I was obviously out of line announcing her card but you live and you learn. I guess the $200 or so dollars I gave to her a couple hands before was probably good compensation though.

[AngusThermopyle]

Misdeal, no. (only first or second card off the deck or if two cards are exposed).
Card replaced, yes. (does not have to be face up. just flashed enough to give people information)
Floor made a bad decision, yes. (bad day, a moron, whatever).

[OrigamiSensei]

Shouldn't that simply be an exposed card and used as the burn? Same as if the dealer flipped over a card.

[TiK]

I don't think you were out of line annoucing her card. In the casinos I've played at, if anyone at the table saw it, and the flipping was not done by the person whose cards they were, then the exposed card becomes the first burn card and the person would get what was originally meant to be the burn card.

[DeuceKicker]

You were not at all out of line. Announcing the card proves that it was exposed, which SHOULD HAVE gotten her a replacement card, with the exposed card used as the burn. It also prevents you from unfairly having information the rest of the table does not have, which is the basis for the Show One, Show All rule.

[Humble Pie]

I don't see why people are defending you for calling out this players exposed card since even you know you were in the wrong. Also I never understand why players choose to slow down a game that is already slow enough to press through a rule on no consequence. Why were the other players at the table screaming for a mis-deal? How did the exposed card effect anyone other than you (to your advantage) the other player who claims to have seen the exposed card (also to their advantage) and the woman who got the fouled card (obv to her disatvantage). If other players where jumping in calling for a mis-deal, they are big dummy's. As for you, you should have kept your info (angle-shoot) to yourself and tried to gain $$ from it. Why was it sooo important for you to have the dealer re-deal?

[chesspain]

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As for you, you should have kept your info (angle-shoot) to yourself and tried to gain $$ from it. Why was it sooo important for you to have the dealer re-deal?

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Because the OP isn't a douchebag?

[frommagio]

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I don't see why people are defending you for calling out this players exposed card since even you know you were in the wrong. Also I never understand why players choose to slow down a game that is already slow enough to press through a rule on no consequence. Why were the other players at the table screaming for a mis-deal? How did the exposed card effect anyone other than you (to your advantage) the other player who claims to have seen the exposed card (also to their advantage) and the woman who got the fouled card (obv to her disatvantage). If other players where jumping in calling for a mis-deal, they are big dummy's. As for you, you should have kept your info (angle-shoot) to yourself and tried to gain $$ from it. Why was it sooo important for you to have the dealer re-deal?

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What?

He did what everybody is supposed to do when they're on their best behavior.

[niss]

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I don't see why people are defending you for calling out this players exposed card since even you know you were in the wrong. Also I never understand why players choose to slow down a game that is already slow enough to press through a rule on no consequence. Why were the other players at the table screaming for a mis-deal? How did the exposed card effect anyone other than you (to your advantage) the other player who claims to have seen the exposed card (also to their advantage) and the woman who got the fouled card (obv to her disatvantage). If other players where jumping in calling for a mis-deal, they are big dummy's. As for you, you should have kept your info (angle-shoot) to yourself and tried to gain $$ from it. Why was it sooo important for you to have the dealer re-deal?

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Oy. Where's the Excedrin.

[Cornell Fiji]

I'm pretty sure floor and Humble Pie get KITN.

This is a standard exposed card gets replaced and becomes the burn situation.