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Old 07-21-2007, 06:33 PM
shmergle shmergle is offline
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Default IMO Yang clearly outplayed FT

There were 205 hands at the final table. You can see them all at http://www.pokernews.com/live-report...t-holdem/day7/

I made a chart of all the results, and ended up with a total of 204 hands. Close enough for online.

Anyway, of these 204, 28 came to a showdown and 25 a walk for the big blind.

Yang was involved in 22 of the 28 showdowns. 9 of these were checked all the way or involved a small bet. He lost 7 of them

The other 13 showdowns were all-ins. At the time the money went all in he was better five times and lost two, worse three times and lost two, even five times and lost two. So he should have won ~7.5 and in fact won 7.

Of the 151 hands someone won with a bet without having to show down, Yang won 64. Either he had an incredible run of good cards or he outplayed everyone else. Unless ESPN shows hole cards of all the hands we won't know for sure, but the latter seems much more likely.

And Yang received 16 of the 25 walks, attributable to his aggressive style.

Seems like a very well-deserved victory to me.
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Old 07-21-2007, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: IMO Yang clearly outplayed FT

Thanks for a new topic on this
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Old 07-21-2007, 08:34 PM
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Default Re: IMO Yang clearly outplayed FT

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Old 07-21-2007, 09:27 PM
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Default Re: IMO Yang clearly outplayed FT

He also clearly got a lot better hands.
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Old 07-21-2007, 09:51 PM
Cornell Fiji Cornell Fiji is offline
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Default Re: IMO Yang clearly outplayed FT

While a new thread was not necessary the OP was well written and provided meaningful analysis that I had not seen before.

Thanks for the post shmergle; don't mind the haters, they are out in full force this time of year.
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Old 07-21-2007, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: IMO Yang clearly outplayed FT

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He also clearly got a lot better hands.

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There's no crime in that. Alot of players get better hands yet don't win tournaments.
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Old 07-21-2007, 10:53 PM
David LoPan David LoPan is offline
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Default Re: IMO Yang clearly outplayed FT

glad you started this thread, I was waiting for your opinion.
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Old 07-22-2007, 11:00 AM
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Default Re: IMO Yang clearly outplayed FT

A couple months ago I was listening to David Sklansky on Dr. Al Schoonmaker's radio show.

The thing that I remember most from that conversation was David's emphasis on the idea that when a bad or mediocre player is aggressive, he is getting as close to optimum profitable play possible.

With a donk who is insanely aggressive against good players who are too passive, I'd take the donk to win more than his fair share.

Yang did get lucky in many hands, but he also won many hands by being properly aggressive. He did outplay most of the table.
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: IMO Yang clearly outplayed FT

LOL at a donkament player outplaying other donkament players
also nice sample size

good post
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