The Final Table SUCKED Thread

[EverettKings]

I watched most of the final table, and decided that it was totally lame. So I thought we'd start a thread and compile reasons why it sucked.

My top three:

3) The horrible aversion to playing postflop poker, especially heads-up. The guys played a couple tiny pots on flops, but there was way to much overbetting preflop and stuff. Nothing cool happened after the board came down. Nothing.

2) HORRRIBLE poker played all around. Raymond Rayme somehow got to the final table in a 5000 player field, then checkraises all in with KK in a reraised pot on an A high board laying 3:1. That's the kind of [censored] I saw at $25 Party Poker tables back in the day. "OMG I HAVE KK I RERAISE PREFLOP OMG ACE ON FLOP I CANT FOLD KK THREE HANDED IM ALL IN OH NO HE HAS AN ACE WHAT AN AWFUL BEAT" Jesus christ.

1) TWO HUNDRED [censored] HANDS IN SIXTEEN [censored] HOURS. That's 12 hands an hour. TWELVE. Live poker is 3x that fast at a normal table, online tables are like 5-8x as fast. Granted its a WSOP final table yadda yadda but there is NO excuse for the absurd degree of Hollywooding for the most mundane decisions. It does not take sixty full seconds for Jerry Yang to make his preflop action, even if its a fold. Tuan Lam does not need to take two minutes to fold to Jerry's fiftieth preflop raise in a row. It's stupid.

/rant

Your turn.

[Dranoel]

4) I was not at the table.

[technologic]

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4) I was not at the table.

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that would be 0) for me

[vixticator]

I watched all 15+ hours or w/e, lol, having not been to sleep the day before and didn't fall asleep. I liked it for the most part. The first 5ish hours were exciting, lots of jaming and calling with... uh... strange hands. Four handed was a lot better but most hands were Jerry raises and wins or Jerry 3-bets and wins PF. I don't think he got hit by the deck, just a stone maniac. A bit upset that Tuan and Rahme didn't see more flops, even OOP. But it was worth the like $1.10 an hour. Definitely want to see more hands per hour though.

[RonMexico]

I think all OP's points are solid, especially #1. Regarding point #2, I believe that if you mask the stake/tournament and just show a hand replay on a computer, you'd be hard-pressed to distinguish this from a $30 online MTT.

[JeffreyN]

30$ MTT can be difficult

[llleisure]

I watched most of it and at first I thought it sucked but then it sort of fascinated me. I mean Yang ran that table at his own (slow) pace and I think it drove the other players up the wall. That was just so unexpected and especially from the weak/bad/short stacked little asian dude. There were several times when another player woud look at Yang and try to pick up something and just look away frustrated. Little dude was a friggin statue for 16 hours.

How they will chop this up for good, edited ESPN TV I have no clue. That will be hard.

It did suck that out of 8 other players, not one could come up with some way to play back at Yang and at least try to take him off his game. Pray to Satan when you win a hand, or something cripes - make the guy blink.

Lam was a trooper, had he won that last hand they might still be playing.

[Phanekim]

imho very very bad. this was nothing compared to last year.

[nhtool]

It's funny how they altered the structure to allow for more play and no one took advantage of it. People routinely folded to reraises preflop with position and plenty of chips to play with. Whenever there was any sort of money in preflop, people were way too aggressive on the flop. It was terrible, scared poker, and I'm glad Yang won because he was the only one at the table with any balls (even though his praying for cards thing was disgusting and way out of line).

[EverettKings]

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It was terrible, scared poker, and I'm glad Yang won because he was the only one at the table with any balls

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I couldn't agree more.