2 questions

[UptownExpress]

Ok I know these look stupid but I am interested in some response because these situations come up all the time and I want to know more about how to handle them.

In hand 1, could use please evaluate preflop and flop.

In hand 2, do people call here (squeeze)? what frequency?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($32.65)
UTG ($11.20)
Hero ($28.60)
CO ($26.55)
Button ($26.20)
SB ($24.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.10) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.25</font>

i know this (hand underneath) is really standard but um... with no reads?

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Hero ($24.40)
SB ($60.15)
BB ($42.45)
UTG ($19.30)
MP ($25.65)
CO ($27.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $1.2</font>, <font color="#666666">[i], 1 fold, hero?

[70yssej]

Hand 1 fold preflop. As played bet $1.50 on the flop.
Hand 2 call. you have a good implied odds hand and as long as you're decent postflop you will be +ev after the flop given there is an UTG limper and he raised in MP which implies he actually has a hand.

[TiltedFox]

Hand 1: Fold preflop, as played he'll probably reraise you.
Hand 2: Fold, there are three people left to act and QJs is pretty questionable to a raise unless you hit the flop hard.

[Big Poppa Smurf]

1)fold, no need to get fancy
2)fold, you can't count on the limper to call and you need more people in the pot to make it profitable (at least I do)

[UptownExpress]

it seems reasonable to play hand 1 this way preflop at low frequency for deception/metagame right?

[Capone]

Hand 1: Clear fold pre-flop. Cbet 3/4 pot. I try not to always c-bet though when I miss the flop like that.

Hand 2: Easy fold. This hand prefers multi-way action like a small sc. If you play it for high card value for a raise you will get yourself into so many TPWK marginal situations.

[Arcturus]

On Hand 2, for those of you who say fold preflop, do you do this because of the UTG limper? Without the limper, I think, although not good for high card value, QJs is a great hand with deep stacks AND position. I usually call a raise this size all day from the button. But...the UTG limper is a worry for re-raising.

Is this a leak in my game? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[UptownExpress]

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On Hand 2, for those of you who say fold preflop, do you do this because of the UTG limper? Without the limper, I think, although not good for high card value, QJs is a great hand with deep stacks AND position . I usually call a raise this size all day from the button. But...the UTG limper is a worry for re-raising.

Is this a leak in my game? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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i have about 100 bb in this hand. This is a good point however, I would be more inclined to play this hand with 150 or 200 bbs +,

[justhetip]

Hand 1 is ok, maybe bet more.
Hand 2 is fine. It is 6 max and you should punish the limpers. Without a read I would say he is limping with Ax suited, or small-medium pocket pairs and will give up if he does not hit. You have position.

[Kasane]

53s is fine once in a great, great while. If you're running hot (don't tell me it doesn't make a difference, it does) fine. I'd definitely wait for better position than MP though. CO button is much better. Cbet flop normally -- stronger than you did.

Hand 2 is a call on the button. You want to squeeze when there's a raise and a call, not a limp and a raise. bet size is then rationally more than any pair can call. Only squeeze when you know your opener can fold. Generally don't bother at 50NL. Won't change your winrate much, and the play itself is more or less 0EV -- but it makes your big hands more profitable if your opponents are observant.

I like a call on the button with QJs. It's a hand with some high card value (careful!) some straight value and some flush value. In position it's fine (full stacks, and other considerations of course make a difference.)