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Old 07-18-2007, 05:52 PM
Sibelius Sibelius is offline
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Default Checkraise on paired board

FL .5/1

UTG+1 is tight-aggressive/passive
CO is a very loose-passive player (76.36/0/70,21)
BB is SLP/P

Preflop: Hero is SB with K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises, 2 folds, CO calls, button folds, Hero calls, BB calls

Flop: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (8SB, 4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG+1 bets</font> , CO calls, <font color="red">Hero raises</font> , BB calls, UTG+1 folds, CO calls

Turn: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7,5BB, 3 players)
<font color="red"> Hero bets, </font> ,BB calls, CO calls

River: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (10,5BB)
Hero Checks, <font color="red"> BB bets </font> , CO calls, Hero calls

Who likes my check-raise on flop? My hand is not strong, but I have a chance to drive BB out.

What about the river play? I haven't much information about opponents hands, since the game is passive.
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Old 07-18-2007, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: Checkraise on paired board

river is an easy value bet.
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Old 07-18-2007, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: Checkraise on paired board

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river is an easy value bet.

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BB is a player that really often waits for the river to raise. He cold-called my flop-raise and is not so loose player. Could easily have trips
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Old 07-18-2007, 06:05 PM
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Default Re: Checkraise on paired board

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river is an easy value bet.

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BB is a player that really often waits for the river to raise. He cold-called my flop-raise and is not so loose player. Could easily have trips

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7 is possible, but, it's more likely has a weaker T. dont assume he'll do the betting for you. he might even have 88-99.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:31 AM
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Default Re: Checkraise on paired board

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BB is a player that really often waits for the river to raise. He cold-called my flop-raise and is not so loose player. Could easily have trips

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What's your point?
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:06 AM
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BB is a player that really often waits for the river to raise. He cold-called my flop-raise and is not so loose player. Could easily have trips

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What's your point?

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My point is, that I don't want to check and fold to a bet on river since the pot is quite big. Betting and folding would be a very good strategy, but by checking and calling I'm able to see the SD for the same price. That helps me to get important reads from the passive player.

Since he is passive, but not over-loose player, the play on flop indicates he has a strong draw. (Checking and cold-calling on flop smells like slowplaying). But not sure about his cards. I would like to see the showdown here, betting and calling a raise on river probably is not an alternative.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:52 AM
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river is an easy value bet.

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BB is a player that really often waits for the river to raise. He cold-called my flop-raise and is not so loose player. Could easily have trips

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uhhh, then you should be folding.

just bet the river.
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Old 07-19-2007, 01:10 AM
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Bet the river....

Raise PF is also OK
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:42 AM
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Bet the river....

Raise PF is also OK

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PF was already raised. Are you going to reraise it with KTs OOP?
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:17 AM
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Bet the river. Worry about this:[ QUOTE ]
BB is a player that really often waits for the river to raise. Could easily have trips

[/ QUOTE ]if it happens.
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