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Old 07-18-2007, 09:22 AM
tomonbass tomonbass is offline
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Default Mid Set, Flop Wet RR to me......

BB 23/10/3(56) CO 26/17/2(65)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($18.40)
BB ($11.70)
UTG ($21.05)
MP ($23.70)
CO ($11.10)
Hero ($12.10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $0.4</font>, CO calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.40, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.30.

Flop: ($1.65) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $1</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $3.2</font>,Hero???
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:32 AM
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Default Re: Mid Set, Flop Wet RR to me......

Shove!
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: Mid Set, Flop Wet RR to me......

If this board was less drawy, I would say call hoping to get the BB to come along and then you could push the turn. But since this is such an inviting board, I would push on the flop. If someone already has the straight, that's just a cooler and you still have outs to outdraw them.
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Old 07-18-2007, 12:02 PM
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Default Re: Mid Set, Flop Wet RR to me......

this is close between folding and shoving. what do u think the co is reraising with with a player left to act...??? most probably he has the str8 imo. with these stacks i shove tho probs
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Old 07-18-2007, 12:06 PM
Perk76 Perk76 is offline
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Default Re: Mid Set, Flop Wet RR to me......

Range is alot wider than just a st8. Run pokerstove vs a range that you think he has and see how 99 fairs.

CO can do this with an over pair, all the two pair hands, AJ, maybe 77, 1010, 88, QJ. Thats a wide range and all reasonable.

I like Shove here due to stack sizes. Since your posting, it prob was QJ. My guess would be JJ.
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Old 07-18-2007, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: Mid Set, Flop Wet RR to me......

3bet.
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Old 07-18-2007, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: Mid Set, Flop Wet RR to me......

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3bet.

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or shove.. .you got outs if he has a straight
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Old 07-19-2007, 08:57 AM
mattnxtc mattnxtc is offline
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Default Re: Mid Set, Flop Wet RR to me......

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this is close between folding and shoving. what do u think the co is reraising with with a player left to act...??? most probably he has the str8 imo. with these stacks i shove tho probs

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its not close
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:37 AM
tomonbass tomonbass is offline
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Default Re: Mid Set, Flop Wet RR to me......

I have this discussion before on a simialar thread to this regarding folding sets etc...

even if we run these usual ranges through poker stove w/e and we find that it is slightly +EV I dont agree that you should just shove blindly on the EV sayso.....

We are being given information here from our opponents and it is important that we use it...

I am facing a raise and a reraise from two tight opponents I got to take that into consideration...

If someone has pokerstove could they run he usual ranges then because we(I) are(am) assuming one of them has a made hand here change the range of one opponent to just a made hand (straight/set) and one with the usual range then see what the EV differance is ....

TIA
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Old 07-18-2007, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: Mid Set, Flop Wet RR to me......

Just shove or 3 bet nearish pot, depending on stack sizes. You're usually way ahead here and have plenty of outs if anyone happened to flop a set. You don't want them drawing for cheap with a board this coordinated.
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