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Old 07-17-2007, 03:44 PM
Ghazban Ghazban is offline
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Default Bet/call flop, get there on turn, then.......check?

2/4 6-max $454 effective stacks

I pot A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG, folds to BB who calls. BB seems kind of weird; he likes to minraise preflop both as the opener and after limpers or from the blinds. He hasn't gone past a flop postflop yet as he's folding to aggression from some of the other players at the table (not me; we haven't played a pot together yet).

Flop comes K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($30)

He checks, I pot, he minraises to $60, I call

Turn K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($150)

He checks, I check

River 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($150)

He checks, I check
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: Bet/call flop, get there on turn, then.......check?

I check behind on this flop here.

As played I check turn then value bet river.
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:54 PM
Ghazban Ghazban is offline
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Default Re: Bet/call flop, get there on turn, then.......check?

What worse hand is donkraising the flop and then paying off on the river? The flopped straight is vomiting and folding and two pair filled up or got counterfeited. The only worse hands paying off IMO are smaller flushes and they don't ever check/minraise the flop do they? (maybe QJxx with hearts but one of those is a straight flush now).
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Old 07-17-2007, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: Bet/call flop, get there on turn, then.......check?

I like s000t line on this one.
Most flushes will pay off a value bet on the river. Checking behind river is way to weak.
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Old 07-17-2007, 04:35 PM
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Default Re: Bet/call flop, get there on turn, then.......check?

Which flushes are check/minraising the flop?
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Old 07-17-2007, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: Bet/call flop, get there on turn, then.......check?

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Which flushes are check/minraising the flop?

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Exactly. I don't see you squeezing any value out of this hand. If they call you're beat, if they fold, you were ahead anyways. Betting sucks.
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Old 07-17-2007, 04:43 PM
oneouterson oneouterson is offline
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Default Re: Bet/call flop, get there on turn, then.......check?

Could have something like AxQh5h6x or AxJh8h9x. Could of flopped the straight with a flush draw.
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Old 07-18-2007, 01:21 AM
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Default Re: Bet/call flop, get there on turn, then.......check?

Without any real info on the other player checking behind is ok and will encourage bluffs later.
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Old 07-18-2007, 01:09 PM
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Default Re: Bet/call flop, get there on turn, then.......check?

CHecking behind is fine. As played I probably bet 60 on the river.
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:29 AM
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Default Re: Bet/call flop, get there on turn, then.......check?

i would bet40-60 river
he could call with 2 pairs, thought u bluff
he can call with Kxxx (to weak thou, he'd probably bet river then)
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