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Old 07-16-2007, 08:41 PM
Mr. Ratface Mr. Ratface is offline
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Default guessing cards

Interesting little scenario happened to me today while playing heads up agaisnt my cousin today in holdem. Very first, I look at my cards, and before any action has taken place announce he has jack 4. At the end of the hand he flips over jack,4. Very next hand, I look at my cards and say he has King, 6 and he immediately turns over king six in disbelief that I guessed it right two in a row.

So basically what are the odds of someone guessions the other person's hand two times in a row. The suit is not considered and the only information is the two cards I hold in each of the two guesses.
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:34 AM
Gullanian Gullanian is offline
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Default Re: guessing cards

If it's completely random its approximatly:

(1/13 * 1/13)^2

If you factor in the fact that him holding the same card as you is less likely its a little more complicated.
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Old 07-17-2007, 09:08 AM
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Default Re: guessing cards

There are 169 two-card combinations ignoring suits. Lets also ignore the two cards you hold for simplicity's sake.

So the odds of correctly guessing a random hand two consecutive times would be 169 * 169, or 1 in 28561.
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Old 07-17-2007, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: guessing cards

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There are 169 two-card combinations ignoring suits. Lets also ignore the two cards you hold for simplicity's sake.

So the odds of correctly guessing a random hand two consecutive times would be 169 * 169, or 1 in 28561.

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Actually, pairs are less likely, so two consecutive correct guesses are a bit more likely than that...

Assuming that that you guess cards that are not in your holding and don't guess a pair the chance is 16 in 50 choose 2 guessing two back to back works out to 256 in 1500625, roughly 1 in 5882.
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:26 PM
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Default Re: guessing cards

I understand that pairs are less likely but how would you know not to guess a pair? I don't think you can count them out here.
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:47 AM
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I understand that pairs are less likely but how would you know not to guess a pair? I don't think you can count them out here.

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You can't, but the OP is guessing non-pair hands, and if one were to guess for optimal likelihood one would guess cards that are not in the holding.
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