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Flopped set, ugly turn.....help!
This hand was played by a friend. Whilst I normally respect his advice, in this case there is some disagrement upon how best to proceed. Adjudication appreciated.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Button ($0) SB ($14.49) BB ($22.13) Hero ($50) MP ($25.65) CO ($36.61) Preflop: Hero is UTG with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $2, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>. Flop: ($4.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.5</font>, CO calls $3.50. Turn: ($11.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> How should hero proceed for the rest of the hand? |
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Re: Flopped set, ugly turn.....help!
Dirty turn card... I can't see anything but check and call if he gives you odds to boat up on the river, then try and get allin obv. Some players like to check behind on the turn when there draws hit as they think (sometimes correctly) that there river bets are more likely to get paid off if whereas you may fold to a turn bet.
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Re: Flopped set, ugly turn.....help!
I like check/evaluate here
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Re: Flopped set, ugly turn.....help!
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I like check/evaluate here [/ QUOTE ] Anyone else? |
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Re: Flopped set, ugly turn.....help!
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[ QUOTE ] I like check/evaluate here [/ QUOTE ] Anyone else? [/ QUOTE ] I like it as well |
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Re: Flopped set, ugly turn.....help!
I bet more on the flop, checking turn is best
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Re: Flopped set, ugly turn.....help!
Ugly, ugly, ugly turn card.
I'm still thinking bet though. |
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Re: Flopped set, ugly turn.....help!
I think betting and checking are both okay. I probably would bet.
FWIW, you do, probably, still have the best hand. |
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Re: Flopped set, ugly turn.....help!
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I think betting and checking are both okay. I probably would bet. FWIW, you do, probably, still have the best hand. [/ QUOTE ]I agree 100%. checking is ok but I bet here nearly all the time. |
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Re: Flopped set, ugly turn.....help!
My opinion.
Betting out seems like the best option. If we check we are likely to get a bet against us, and if we call and don't fill up, we let him fire the river with TPTK or something and let us fold the best hand. This hand gets played in a vacuum if we just check/call. His hand range is not only draws, and since we have a set here, we are ahead alot and should make him payoff with those top pair hands and not let him to be able to bet us off the best hand unless he has the skill to do so (raising us on turn representing a better hand than he has). I think by checking here we will get payed off by worse hands like TP but I think they are likely to call us down too. Also, if we check we may call off 2 streets worth of betting paying him off more than if we bet/fold turn. |
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