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Old 07-16-2007, 03:21 AM
JDalla JDalla is offline
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Default Common 4 straight situation.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

I feel like this is a big leak in my game. I tend to check this turn and call (most) rivers.

River: (3 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 5 BB

1) should I bet betting the turn, with itention to fold to a c/r. (villian not a maniac, does that matter?)

2) Should I call the river or just lay it down?
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Old 07-16-2007, 05:03 AM
roflnub roflnub is offline
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Default Re: Common 4 straight situation.

Bet turn and fold to a raise. As played with this river i would call of course. Mostly you will have that split pot.
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Old 07-16-2007, 05:28 AM
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Default Re: Common 4 straight situation.

yeah bet this Turn, you will not get bluff raised as much as u think, the River is a fold imho, most players will just c/c. If i have a fish read i tend to call because fish cant often resist to bet this thing.
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Old 07-16-2007, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: Common 4 straight situation.

i dont see the merits of betting this turn.
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Old 07-16-2007, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: Common 4 straight situation.

not letting them see a free river with a bunch of split outs?
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Old 07-16-2007, 02:36 PM
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Default Re: Common 4 straight situation.

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i dont see the merits of betting this turn.

[/ QUOTE ]

Because villain is an SB open-limping fish, has KQ, A9, or [insert any one of like 50 hands that we beat here] and is SD bound?
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Old 07-16-2007, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: Common 4 straight situation.

"nd is SD bound? "

what hand is sd bound on that board besides a pair or better?
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:46 AM
baronzeus baronzeus is offline
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Default Re: Common 4 straight situation.

if hes at all good or tricky then checking this turn is obvious. against standard fishies i bet the turn and check behind the river.

also the riv call is standard obv
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:30 AM
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Default Re: Common 4 straight situation.

As usual in a shorthanded game, knowing your opponent is everything. Key question is: "Is this guy capable of bluffing at this pot?" If yes, you should check the turn, else bet.

Most likely scenario is that he has 2 overs. If so, and he is a straightforward player, then you must bet the turn in order to win the pot right there. If he raises, and he is a straightforward player, then it is a super easy fold. But if he is a tricky player, this is a board that begs for a bluff raise, which is why I would lean toward checking against tricky players. You only bet against a tricky player if you are running hot against him and plan to call down his (hopeful) bluff.
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