FTP $535 Fold The Nut Straight

[Pudge714]

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $30/$60
9 players
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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
4 folds, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($180, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $100</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($480, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $300</font>, MP3 folds, SB calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1080, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $780</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $2520</font>, Hero ?
Uncalled bets: $1740 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $2640
I have like 6k and villain has a similar stack

[Kevin8423]

How many chips do you have left after your river bet?

Would checking the river be bad? Seems like if you are folding to a raise you might as well just check/call, I think the chips you lose when you bet are worth too much to jusitify betting for value against the few worse hands that will call.

Edit: Is this a STT or ring!? The title and post don't seem to match.

[Pudge714]

Mods move to HSMTT please.

[AragornX151]

Pudge, the way he played the hand seems very odd for either spades (though A7s is possible, I suppose), a set, or two pair, no? No line really makes sense...does he really c/c the turn on this board with those hands? A7s is the only thing that makes a modicum of sense. I'm feeling 9T, and call.

[0evg0]

Call.

He has T9. Or busted draw obviously.

The only other hands that make sense with the 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] out is something like T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or maybe 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Full house is incredibly unlikely with him c/c'ing that drawtastic turn unless he is an incredible super nit and decided to put you on exactly QT after your flop call and c/c 97.

[Heir_Aparent]

k9? 79? j9?

why would he Craise 910 here?

[d2themfi]

I cant logically see one hand that villain would play like this that has you beat. Two pair hands seem like they would bet the turn and if he flopped a set of sevens he would definitely be tthe turn. And if he has spades, well what was he betting with on the flop? A7 spades? Seems unlikely into that board and two opponents. If hes bad i could see him doing this with A9, but even that seems like a stretch

THis seems like it could be busted diamonds a lot. MAybe he c/c the turn with like 97, or j9, but that seems unlikely. And even then is he really that confident that you were going to bet that river?.

I think I definitely call down here

[Pasterbator]

people don't c/r bluff the river. and thats the worst river card ever.

fold it up.

[Todd Terry]

This looks like a bluff to me. If anything, he believes that given the scariness of the last card, if you're betting, you're betting to buy the pot and therefore he's going to buy it back with a raise. If he has a flush, why would he check the river? He just check/called the turn and a 3rd flush card came on the river, checking a flush there seems ridiculous. I think him checking a boat makes virtually no sense either, given the scariness of the river card and the likelihood that you're going to check behind. Call. Or shove, and try to get him to think you have a bigger boat than him just in case he has one (just kidding on that one).

[0evg0]

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people don't c/r bluff the river.

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Wow, I almost made a post to say the exact opposite.

While I definitely agree with you in NL cash that the river c/r is so much more often for value than as a bluff, in MTTs I think people almost never c/r river for value simply because "zomg what if they check behind" (ie. they're by and large not as good as in cash games). I find river c/r's in MTTs to almost always be unplanned and spontaneous "okay, i'll check/fold. wait, i'll raise him, come on fold, please fold, fold, fold!"