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5/10 66 in EP
I feel like I misplayed this hand horribly. Advice or critiques on all streets are appreciated.
Villian is LAP according to PokerTracker - 21 / 19 / 1.85AF after 90 hands. Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls. Flop: (9.40 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls. Turn: (9.20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, CO folds, Hero calls. River: (13.20 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls. Final Pot: 17.20 BB |
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Re: 5/10 66 in EP
Don't checkraise the river. If you want to get more bets in 3-bet the turn.
I think its wrong to put anymore raises in after villain raises the turn. Its unlikely he'll call a scary check/3-bet with AKo then raise when he hit a K on the turn. At least thats what I think. |
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Re: 5/10 66 in EP
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Don't checkraise the river. If you want to get more bets in 3-bet the turn. I think its wrong to put anymore raises in after villain raises the turn. Its unlikely he'll call a scary check/3-bet with AKo then raise when he hit a K on the turn. At least thats what I think. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure that your average 18% PFRer is good enough at poker to care much about scary checkraises. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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Re: 5/10 66 in EP
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[ QUOTE ] Don't checkraise the river. If you want to get more bets in 3-bet the turn. I think its wrong to put anymore raises in after villain raises the turn. Its unlikely he'll call a scary check/3-bet with AKo then raise when he hit a K on the turn. At least thats what I think. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure that your average 18% PFRer is good enough at poker to care much about scary checkraises. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Well its only over 90 hands. He could've just had a lot of raisable hands. |
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Re: 5/10 66 in EP
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[ QUOTE ] Don't checkraise the river. If you want to get more bets in 3-bet the turn. I think its wrong to put anymore raises in after villain raises the turn. Its unlikely he'll call a scary check/3-bet with AKo then raise when he hit a K on the turn. At least thats what I think. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure that your average 18% PFRer is good enough at poker to care much about scary checkraises. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] 90 hands is nothing so don't base the decisions to much on the stats. Flop is good, a bet would be OK too though. I think it's close but i would vote for a turn 3-bet. We are afraid of KK and 88. Say he's playing 88 like this 33% of the time. We are then behind 3+1=4 combos. To 3-bet we have to expect to be ahead of 8 combos, making a 2:1 ratio. I think villain has AA sometimes, AK is unlikely, but maybe some percentage of the time. QQ, JJ? + Some other random combos and i think we can make it 8, since we have to take into account that he *may* be the kind of player his stats suggest, namely over agressive. But really, the EV difference cannot be too big between the two in this spot. And if you just call the turn, you should also just call the river. To checkraise here is inconsistent. |
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Re: 5/10 66 in EP
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Don't checkraise the river. If you want to get more bets in 3-bet the turn. I think its wrong to put anymore raises in after villain raises the turn. Its unlikely he'll call a scary check/3-bet with AKo then raise when he hit a K on the turn. At least thats what I think. [/ QUOTE ] I had a somewhat similar hand yesterday when I lost to a higher set. I took the line b/c turn, b/c river. That way we're risking one BB less (compared to 3-betting turn and not folding to a cap) and we're sure to get a bet in on the river. What do you think about that? Some people are so overly aggressive that it's tough without a read. At my limits this could very well be AK even if it's not that likely in this case. |
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Re: 5/10 66 in EP
Fold Pre-Flop, the whole hand plays very differently after that.
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Re: 5/10 66 in EP
I dont totally hate limping pre-flop here in some situtations. What kind of game is it? If it's very loose and somewhat aggressive Skylanski actually suggests limping up front with small pairs due to all the good check-raising situations that come up post flop (to protect your hand build the pot ect...) (Hold'em Poker for Ad. Pl. p.24-25) I have recently been winning some monster pots at Party & Pacific 2-4 trying out this strategy, but you MUST be reasonably certain of a multiway pot before going for it.
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Re: 5/10 66 in EP
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I think its wrong to put anymore raises in after villain raises the turn. Its unlikely he'll call a scary check/3-bet with AKo then raise when he hit a K on the turn. At least thats what I think. [/ QUOTE ] Villain was getting about 8:1 to call 2 bets on the flop. It's not out of the question that he called w/AK here. AA is another possibility. I think we need to 3-bet the turn here. |
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Re: 5/10 66 in EP
I fold preflop - but if you think you can get value out of the hand then its fine with me.
I like the flop but I'd three bet the turn. |
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