NL200: Help with [censored] downswing

ADK · #1 07-11-2007, 03:56 PM

Having a huge downswing this week guys, just over 10 buyins.. heres some hands hope you can help me out.

Sorry in advance for the number of hands but I dont want to spam the forum, and i'd rather get all feedback and help in this one thread!

Hand 1 (Villian is 60/22/2 donk)

Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed)

Button ($379.80)
SB ($255.80)
BB ($261.71)
UTG ($190.00)
MP ($188.25)
Hero ($402.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($17) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $13, Hero raises to $55, BB calls $42.

Turn: ($127) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero ?

Plan for river?

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Hand 2 - Villian 52/12/2.2

Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed)

CO ($156.80)
Button ($183.00)
SB ($376.60)
Hero ($321.75)
UTG ($215.95)
MP ($212.72)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
4 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($4) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero raises to $9, SB raises to $16, Hero calls $7.

Turn: ($36) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $12, Hero raises to $70, SB raises to $128, Hero ?

Plan for river?

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Hand 3 - Villian 44/20/1.2 (quite a bad player)

Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (4 handed)

Button ($284.70)
SB ($232.55)
Hero ($254.03)
UTG ($385.51)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $8, 1 fold, SB calls $7, Hero calls $6.

Flop: ($24) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $17, SB folds, Hero raises to $67, UTG calls $50.

Turn: ($158) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $55, UTG calls $55.

River: ($268) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $255.51 (All-In), Hero ?

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Hand 4 - Villian 50/4/1

Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (2 handed)

BB ($316.07)
Hero ($292.63)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $9, BB calls $7.

Flop: ($18) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $17, BB calls $17.

Turn: ($52) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $49, BB calls $49.

River: ($150) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $166.51, Hero ?

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Hand 5 - Villian 23/8/3.7

Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed)

BB ($170.55)
Hero ($607.30)
MP ($213.53)
Button ($586.70)
SB ($285.15)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $8, MP calls $8, 3 folds.

Flop: ($19) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $10, Hero calls $10.

Turn: ($39) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $19.5, Hero calls $19.50.

River: ($78) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $176.03 (All-In), Hero ?

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Hand 6 - Villian 60/20/3.8

Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (3 handed)

BB ($135.74)
Button ($203.14)
Hero ($348.55)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Button calls $2, Hero raises to $11, 1 fold, Button calls $9.

Flop: ($24) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $22, Button calls $22.

Turn: ($68) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $22.44, Hero calls $22.44.

River: ($112.88) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $147.7 (All-In), Hero ?

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Hand 7 - Villian 30/15/2

Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (4 handed)

BB ($294.95)
Hero ($199.00)
Button ($400.95)
SB ($214.78)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $6, Button calls $6, 1 fold, BB calls $4.

Flop: ($19) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, Button calls $12, BB folds.

Turn: ($43) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $43, Hero calls $43.

River: ($129) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $138 (All-In).

Final Pot: $267

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Hand 8 - Villian 22/4/2.3

Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed)

SB ($173.18)
BB ($425.30)
Hero ($205.17)
MP ($177.49)
Button ($271.00)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $8, MP calls $8, 1 fold, SB calls $7, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($32) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $30, MP raises to $169.49 (All-In), SB folds, BB folds, Hero ?

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Hope some people can take some time out to comment on a few hands, thanks [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

beavens · #2 07-11-2007, 04:03 PM

you seem to be shutting down and going on the defensive after they call your flop bets, which makes me think that they are just sensing weakness and running you over.

joeblack · #3 07-11-2007, 04:04 PM

tl;dr the hands...

.. but I too experienced a -10 BI swing at 200NL last week. I recommend either taking a break or dropping down a level. I dropped down to 100NL and am up +7 BI's in less than 2K hands.

ADK · #4 07-11-2007, 04:09 PM

Its pretty sick, im getting owned by donks who are catching runner runner flush / rivering boats vs me non stop for the last 5k hands ive played.

I like to think im good at controlling tilt, I have been for the last 3-4 months... but this week I havent been able to handle this swing, im down much more than 10 buyin I just didnt post the coolers/badbeats as theres no point.

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joeblack · #5 07-11-2007, 04:13 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Its pretty sick, im getting owned by donks who are catching runner runner flush / rivering boats vs me non stop for the last 5k hands ive played.

I like to think im good at controlling tilt, I have been for the last 3-4 months... but this week I havent been able to handle this swing, im down much more than 10 buyin I just didnt post the coolers/badbeats as theres no point.

askdjaskjdakskdjaskldjksjdkasdj

[/ QUOTE ]

We are long lost brothers. I am in the same boat. I too am very good at controlling tilt but a llllooooooonnnggg series of bad-beats and coolers sent me into a -4K spiral between 400NL & 200NL.

I'm telling you take a few days off and then jump into 100NL to build back up your confidence. After up +7 BI's in two nights I feel like the best player in the world again.

ADK · #6 07-11-2007, 04:20 PM

Sounds good my man, I think playing some NL100 again will do me good.

If anyone else wants to comment on some of the hands i'd appreciate it

Suigin406 · #7 07-11-2007, 05:08 PM

just throwing my opinions out there, feel free to bash...

hand 1 u need to bet because of all the draws out...against a good player, b/f the turn might be OK even with the draws out there, but against that idiot, bet turn anyway...tough spot if he shoves since effective stacks are >100BB, but i still can't fold vs this donk...

i hate villian's betting in hand 2, but after u see his stupid betting on flop, i just call his turn bet, our hand sux to a raise and he is trying to keep it small...

hand 3 i shut down after flop, what does he have that u beat, lots of 2 pair hands and we no longer beat AQ, only beating AK on that board...also, weak turn bet by us could incite aggression from him...

hand 4 is disgusting (confusing), i like the bets on the flop and turn because that board is too drawy, but we can't call the river, we've shown tons of strength and he decided to open shove the river, he's also 50/4/1, so when he shoves, he has something with his low aggro..

hand 5, fold this UTG, also, i don't see y u didn't raise the turn, it looks like he's pricing himself for a draw and the overbet could be to shove u out...still, end prolly has to be a fold though to that huge bet...

hand 6, either lead turn and or crai on turn, i prefer leading actually in this spot since i don't want to fold out a lot of hands we can still value from...also, a c/r scares him and he can have way more than just an A here, so betting is fine too...

hand 7
i don't like the overbet here, only hand which calls that we beat is AJ and that hand doesn't pot the turn, losing value from weaker A's too in this spot

hand 8 is tough, i can't see a set bombing the flop like this, so i call...

biendover · #8 07-11-2007, 06:03 PM

Hand 1: I check turn, and re-eval on riv if BB bets big.

Hand 2: As played I fold the turn. I'm probably putting it all in on the flop.

Hand 3: I bet bigger on the turn to around 100. As played I fold river. His aggression is 1.2 and will all that action I doubt he is bluffing in this spot.

Hand 4: This is a tuff one. If 50/50 between folding and calling. His aggression is so small so it makes it hard for me to think I'm ahead.

Hand 5: I call the river. Why didn't you c/r the turn?

Hand 6: I'm raising the turn. As played I'm calling the river.

Hand 7: I play the same.

Hand 8: Any reads? I'm calling.

ADK · #9 07-11-2007, 06:29 PM

Awsome guys, thanks for taking the time to look through those hands I know it can be a pain.

I'll post the results for those who are interested since I got some good feedback already.

Hand 1 J,T (flopped the nuts)
Hand 2 6,4
Hand 3 A,J
Hand 4 A,Q (so fkin sick)
Hand 5 Q,J
Hand 6 7,8
Hand 7 3,3
Hand 8 4,4

vhunter · #10 07-11-2007, 08:39 PM

So are u saying u called and lost all these hands?
don't feel bad, I ran into KKKK two times last night, and I'm still upfor the night, it happens to all of us. Just keep playing the good thing will happen, it will turn around.