"standard" stats for HU NL Cash Games

mayday4379 · #1 07-11-2007, 03:32 PM

Are there any? VPIP, PRF, etc?

cwar · #2 07-11-2007, 03:45 PM

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Are there any? VPIP, PRF, etc?

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Tight players generally have 35%ish vpip's, LAGs have about 40%+, Phil Ivey has a 60% vpip and all can be profitable. I think its much more telling to look at how often people 3-bet but the point is there is no standard.

mayday4379 · #3 07-11-2007, 04:10 PM

Yeah...I think that's why these games can be so profitable. I guess the lack of a starting hand chart is one of those reasons.

Deewhizzle · #4 07-11-2007, 05:26 PM

Hu play IMO is more player dependant than hand dependant. thats where the post flop play comes into effect. i dont think you can follow a starting hand chart in HU play. maybe in lower blind levels, but you have to adapt your game more than once in a match with a decent player.

MasterLJ · #5 07-11-2007, 05:45 PM

Meh, I will argue until I'm blue in the face that 40%+ is LAG. 35% VPIP is downright nittish.

I play 47/36.

My IP raising range is pretty big. My OOP calling range is fairly small.

EDIT: I completely agree that it's really hard to quantify playstyles HU.

jsnipes28 · #6 07-11-2007, 05:46 PM

im 40/35 i think

cwar · #7 07-11-2007, 06:12 PM

47/36 is a pretty loose style, this may have contributed to the fact you had a 20 buyin downswing (I by no means mean this as an insult, Im not commenting on your skill merely an effect of your style) TAGgier styles have less variance and can make just as much (maybe somewhat less) but with tons less variance which makes them very viable.

whaahhahahah · #8 07-12-2007, 03:27 PM

parsing out the stats for in position and out of position is definitely worth it. most good players play in position about the same. out of position there is a lot of variation.

dmk · #9 07-15-2007, 01:34 AM

only 1k hands, but i'm playing 49/37. at 500 i was 49/38 so i guess that normalizes pretty quickly in HU

PartyScout · #10 07-15-2007, 09:15 AM

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only 1k hands, but i'm playing 49/37. at 500 i was 49/38 so i guess that normalizes pretty quickly in HU

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This will probally be very close to what you run at after you played 10/20k hands unless you make a serouis adjustment

Think im 52/42 or smething like that but can close up to 46/38 or go much wider 68/60 dependant on oppenants obv [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]