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Pushing 89s against 2 players on the flop OK?
I have both MP1 and the button on loose agressive..
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver) MP2 ($26.80) MP3 ($28.05) CO ($12.75) Button ($22.80) SB ($7.95) Hero ($35.55) UTG ($16.25) UTG+1 ($25.35) MP1 ($19.75) Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, 8. 2 folds</font>, MP1 calls $0.25, 3 foldsButton raises to $1.25</font>,1 fold</font>, Hero calls $1, MP1 calls $1. I call here because the button has a lot of chips behind, and since MP1 has limp-called very often im pretty sure he will this time Flop: ($3.85) 4, 8, K(3 players)</font> Hero checks, Here i check with the intetion to check-raise, see if i can pick up this pot here, im thinking he will have to lay down AQ, QQ or lower.. MP1 checks, Button bets $2.5</font>, I see my wanted C-bet and raise here to see where i stand Hero raises to $6.5</font>, MP1 raises to $13.75</font>, then MP1 suddenly also checkraises, im putting him on AK since hes played these big hands weird before, Button calls $11.25, and the button calls, im worried about this call, but think he cant call on a draw here so he must either have AK or AA because a set of kings or eights he will push, i decide that i have at least 9 outs to my Flush and probable 14 outs when i hit my trips or 2 pair, + with this read i am prettymuch commited Hero raises to $34.3</font>, MP1 calls $4.75 (All-In), Button calls $7.80 (All-In). Turn: ($78.20) 7 (3 players, 2 all-in)</font> River: ($78.20) 5](3 players, 2 all-in)</font> Final Pot: $78.20 |
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Re: Pushing 89s against 2 players on the flop OK?
Knowing that these players likely aren't going anywhere if you put them all in, this really is just a matter of doing the math.
At my limits, my first inclination would be that the early position player has a set, which would compromise 2 of your flush outs and/or hitting trips or 2-pair. So, even in that case, let's assume you have just 7 clean outs to the flush. Recall, your hand isn't necessarily good if you hit the flush (lose to higher flush) or if you hit the flush on the turn and then your opponent rivers a boat. But let's say that you're guaranteed to win if you hit your flush. You're getting immediate odds of about 5.22:1 which is almost enough to draw to your 7-outs on the turn. If you factor in your push, knowing both opponents will call, the implied odds increase it to nearly 7:1. More than enough to hit your 7-outer. I'm o.k. with the push with these stacks AND with your read. If the first opponent could be c/r'ng with overs and a higher flush draw, obviously, it would be a different story. Edit: You'll get more responses if you post this in the micro NL forum. |
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Re: Pushing 89s against 2 players on the flop OK?
i see what you mean, but its not very likely MP1 has a flushdraw because of the check- re-raise, i cant see him making that move with nutflushdraw..
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Re: Pushing 89s against 2 players on the flop OK?
MP1 must have a set.
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Re: Pushing 89s against 2 players on the flop OK?
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i see what you mean, but its not very likely MP1 has a flushdraw because of the check- re-raise, i cant see him making that move with nutflushdraw.. [/ QUOTE ] .. That's almost exactly what you're doing. What makes you think villain won't? |
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Re: Pushing 89s against 2 players on the flop OK?
I think button has AQh/Ajh. I cant see button stacking off with TPTK against two re-raises after his c-bet.
Once button calls i fold. |
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Re: Pushing 89s against 2 players on the flop OK?
you do all realise this is micro stakes right?
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