NL10 KK River Question

CaptVimes · #1 07-03-2007, 12:52 PM

Villain is 52/2/2.17 over 50 hands the only other hand I noticed was when he flopped a straight and one a big pot after open limping with 64o from mp1. Also, should I be betting bigger, for value, on flop and turn?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 ($1.95)
MP1 ($3.75)
MP2 ($5.25)
MP3 ($17.20)
CO ($9.50)
Button ($2.60)
SB ($3.80)
BB ($9.90)
Hero ($10.05)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $0.4, 3 folds, MP3 calls $0.40, 2 folds, SB calls $0.35, 1 fold.

Flop: ($1.30) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, MP3 calls $1, SB folds.

Turn: ($3.30) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $2, MP3 calls $2.

River: ($7.30) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

Hero? B/F, B/C, C/C?

RyanCMU · #2 07-03-2007, 12:55 PM

I c/c river

xxrod17xx · #3 07-03-2007, 01:25 PM

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Landlord79 · #4 07-03-2007, 02:03 PM

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I c/c river

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C/C = Great for pot control

Landlord79 · #5 07-03-2007, 02:07 PM

I'm okay here with one pair if the villain doesn't bet behind us. One pair is not a big pot hand!

Specialwon · #6 07-03-2007, 02:46 PM

I really hate these full length adventures with calling stations, particularly with only a pair. If you are going to stack him, you need a better hand than this.

My solution is to push these guys out of the pot no later than the turn, just shove, watch him fold his hand which you know is junk, take the $3 and move on to the next hand.

Definitely your turn bet was too small imo, you needed him to be paying top dollar to carry on drawing (which he most likely was at that point).

On the river, he may well have a 7 but I would not put it really any higher than 50-50. By betting you get to set the price you are prepared to pay and you give him a chance to make a mistake with junk. I say bet about $3, fold to a raise. If you check, this mutt is going to think you lost your nerve and you will get blown off the hand whether or not you beat him.

Specialwon · #7 07-03-2007, 02:49 PM

lol, you posted the result at the same time as my post. See, shoulda shoved that turn.

jack frost · #8 07-03-2007, 12:57 PM

I am bet folding here. I think there is allot times you see a 52/2 show down allot here that you do beat like a-10 or 10-j or even allot worse for that matter he could also a flush draw/pair. I could also see the argument for c/c here with the draw heavy board but I hate to give up any value against a player like this which is a leak of mine some times.

RyanCMU · #9 07-03-2007, 01:01 PM

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I am bet folding here. I think there is allot times you see a 52/2 show down allot here that you do beat like a-10 or 10-j or even allot worse for that matter he could also a flush draw/pair. I could also see the argument for c/c here with the draw heavy board but I hate to give up any value against a player like this which is a leak of mine some times.

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I didn't pay close enough attention to villains stats, and after looking back, I think that given his passive nature, this would be a good spot to b/f, since he probably won't bluff with his missed draws on the river, but he will call with a lot of worse hands.

So I change my answer to agree with Jack, b/f.

threads13 · #10 07-03-2007, 02:54 PM

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I am bet folding here. I think there is allot times you see a 52/2 show down allot here that you do beat like a-10 or 10-j or even allot worse for that matter he could also a flush draw/pair. I could also see the argument for c/c here with the draw heavy board but I hate to give up any value against a player like this which is a leak of mine some times.

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I didn't pay close enough attention to villains stats, and after looking back, I think that given his passive nature, this would be a good spot to b/f, since he probably won't bluff with his missed draws on the river, but he will call with a lot of worse hands.

So I change my answer to agree with Jack, b/f.

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I make this post a lot.

When a guy plays 50% of his hands and has an aggression factor greater than 2 he is playing quite aggressive. This guy is not passive.