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JJJ----Gas or Brakes?
No reads on Villain yet. I didn't raise the flop because I decided to go for an overcall on this ragged board. So which is it here? Gas or brakes?
PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls. Flop: (13.40 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls. Turn: (8.20 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG+1 calls. River: (16.20 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero...... |
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Re: JJJ----Gas or Brakes?
If you aren't losing a lot of bets with flopped sets, you aren't playing them right.
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Re: JJJ----Gas or Brakes?
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No reads on Villain yet. I didn't raise the flop because I decided to go for an overcall on this ragged board. [/ QUOTE ] I would have fastplayed the flop because I don't expect an overcall very often on the ragged board, plus you might get bonus action from preflop capper who will have an overpair somewhat often. I probably freeze up even though it's not likely for villain to have AK. I don't like it when I cap the turn and villain still leads into me on the river (well, at least not when I don't have the nuts). With no read, it's not clear to me whether UTG+1 might overplay AA/KK or if his hand is now basically QQ. |
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Re: JJJ----Gas or Brakes?
I just call and get a read. I think we did get sucked out on.
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Re: JJJ----Gas or Brakes?
Raise the flop
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Re: JJJ----Gas or Brakes?
Yea, looking back, I agree and think it was an error to go for the overcall on the flop. However, how would you play the river?
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Re: JJJ----Gas or Brakes?
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Yea, looking back, I agree and think it was an error to go for the overcall on the flop. However, how would you play the river? [/ QUOTE ] Call, you're dead to a great big bunch of a normal person's 3-bet range. |
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Re: JJJ----Gas or Brakes?
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Call, you're dead to a great big bunch of a normal person's 3-bet range. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yea, looking back, I agree and think it was an error to go for the overcall on the flop. However, how would you play the river? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Call, you're dead to a great big bunch of a normal person's 3-bet range. [/ QUOTE ] Yes but most of the hands we are dead to seem unlikely given villains action on previous streets. About the only hand that I see villain holding that beats us is QQ. He could also be overplaying KK and AA. Surely not a flush or straight, look at his previous action. Why can't we raise this for value? |
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Re: JJJ----Gas or Brakes?
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Raise the flop [/ QUOTE ] Don't worry if you will not gain a gigantic pot, like 20 BB, sometimes you slowplay and loose, with a lot of guys on the pot you need to finish the competition and win the pot fast, you will win more in the future, sometimes you build-up a pot and loose, I prefer to play agressive, with fishs they tend to pay all the way |
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