sicko

[Sir Eats A Lot]

i saw this tonight, pretty moving. anyone else?

[siccjay]

Thumbs up for your thread!

[tuq]

I was really hoping that this thread was going to expose NT!'s animal fetishes. Keep waiting, I will.

[SuperUberBob]

Michael Moore spoke at PSU during Fall 2004. The school paid him over $30,000 to speak there. It was supposed to be about his new movie (this was before Fahrenheit 9/11 was released). But from the start, Moore made it a giant rally against President Bush, encouraging the hugely liberal audience to vote Kerry and so on. What a waste of our tuition money.

Though "Sicko" does look like an interesting movie.

[NT!]

i'm interested in this movie, but OP, you did a terrible job starting the thread

[evank15]

Sicko makes the Canadian Health Care system look a little too rosy. Way better than the US? Of course. As good as MM makes it look in the film? Not even close.

[NT!]

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Sicko makes the Canadian Health Care system look a little too rosy. Way better than the US? Of course. As good as MM makes it look in the film? Not even close.

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yeah from talking to some canadian friends they say that the waiting lists, etc can be a bitch. seems like the major advantage of the canadian system is in accessibility of minor / preventive stuff, not having to worry about if it's covered or something.

[amplify]

In America Alone, Mark Steyn points to some examples of women being helicoptered to a different province during labor because there were no beds available for them in the province they lived in, as evidence of the complete failure of the system to provide decent care. This book is heavily right wing, though, so I question his motives and understand that it is very easy to position anecdotal evidence as conclusive.

[Thug Bubbles]

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Sicko makes the Canadian Health Care system look a little too rosy. Way better than the US? Of course. As good as MM makes it look in the film? Not even close.

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yeah from talking to some canadian friends they say that the waiting lists, etc can be a bitch. seems like the major advantage of the canadian system is in accessibility of minor / preventive stuff, not having to worry about if it's covered or something.

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I have a close friend finishing up med school this year, so he's dealing with alot of these realities and debates right now. The vast majority of his class is pro-socialized health care, but he basically states that for the median, Canada and similar programs are preferred yet, for those that actually have coverage, America is at or very near the top (he goes on to cite several examples of how foreigners with money try hard to get a specialist in the States).

Proper Health Care systems seem maddening to try to understand. Much like the 'correct' economic system. They are just so damned complex that even the experts are divided. That's depressing for a layman like me to think about.

[Uncle Wimp]

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Sicko makes the Canadian Health Care system look a little too rosy. Way better than the US? Of course. As good as MM makes it look in the film? Not even close.

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yeah from talking to some canadian friends they say that the waiting lists, etc can be a bitch. seems like the major advantage of the canadian system is in accessibility of minor / preventive stuff, not having to worry about if it's covered or something.

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For the major stuff, you're better off coming to America, if you can afford it. After my uncle died on the operating table in Canada, the thought was that if he'd come to America for heart surgery, he'd still be alive today.
Again, only if he had the money.