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Old 07-01-2007, 01:23 AM
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Default 200NL, JJ, folding a set again please.

Villain is unknown. Seems tightish.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $186.52
BB: $265.15
Hero (UTG): $197.00
CO: $411.95
BTN: $48.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, 3 folds, BB calls $6.00

Flop: ($17) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12.00</font>, BB calls $12.00

Turn: ($41) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $33.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $66.00</font> (raised fairly quickly), Hero calls $33.00

River: ($173) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets all-in for $179.15</font>, Hero folds
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Old 07-01-2007, 01:24 AM
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Default Re: 200NL, JJ, folding a set again please.

i'd bet more on flop and shove turn.
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Old 07-01-2007, 01:25 AM
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Default Re: 200NL, JJ, folding a set again please.

pot flop

shove turn
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Old 07-01-2007, 01:29 AM
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Default Re: 200NL, JJ, folding a set again please.

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pot flop

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I basically never pot the flop HU unless my opponent is known to call these sorts of bets. Are you only full-potting monsters? What's your standard c-bet size.

(FWIW the pot was $16 with rake deducted. Had it been 17, I would have bet 14 instead.)
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Old 07-01-2007, 01:31 AM
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Default Re: 200NL, JJ, folding a set again please.

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pot flop

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I basically never pot the flop HU unless my opponent is known to call these sorts of bets. Are you only full-potting monsters? What's your standard c-bet size.

(FWIW the pot was $16 with rake deducted. Had it been 17, I would have bet 14 instead.)

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dont have a standard cbet size

depends on board usually
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Old 07-01-2007, 01:32 AM
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Default Re: 200NL, JJ, folding a set again please.

i'd pot air on the flop on this board.
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Old 07-01-2007, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: 200NL, JJ, folding a set again please.

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i'd pot air on the flop on this board.

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Doesn't seem like a good board for this, but potting air is the great equalizer, I guess.
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Old 07-01-2007, 02:31 AM
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Default Re: 200NL, JJ, folding a set again please.

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I basically never pot the flop HU

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how the [censored] do you ever build a pot?

i always size my bets a little bigger HU than multiway, just so that when i actually hit a hand (like this hand) it's not a huge pain in the ass to get my stack all in

oh yeah, and keep raising turn, lotta value vs. many two pair even if he occasionally has a straight (which you can outdraw now, but not once you get to the river)
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Old 07-01-2007, 02:37 AM
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Default Re: 200NL, JJ, folding a set again please.

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I basically never pot the flop HU

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how the [censored] do you ever build a pot?

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I'm usually 3/4 potting my flops. I guess there's not much difference to an opponent whether I 3/4 or full. I'm starting to realize that every extra dollar that goes into the flop can be worth up to four times as much by the river.
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Old 07-01-2007, 02:33 PM
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plzplzplz shove turn.
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