trying that 4bet thing

[FGators]

Stars $1/2. I've got $280ish and I cover the villain, BHold. Pretty aggressive, seems alright.

I raise the CO to $8 with JJ, he makes it $28, I make it $68, he pushes for $155 more.

History: we had been three-betting each other a decent amount and a lot in the past.

So, uh, my gut says fold because I see QQ-AA a lot.

This is why I hate NOT cold calling.

First off is this an alright play by me...secondly should I call?

[gimmetheloot]

uh? dont 4bet here? hes shoving or folding so u making your hand a bluff...pick AA-KK-AK/air please

[DefiNe]

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uh? dont 4bet here? hes shoving or folding so u making your hand a bluff...pick AA-KK-AK/air please

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are we levelling

[gimmetheloot]

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uh? dont 4bet here? hes shoving or folding so u making your hand a bluff...pick AA-KK-AK/air please

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are we levelling

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are you?

[loosbastard]

Not meaning to hijack this thread...but this has been a subject I've been thinking a lot about lately. In general, common knowledge says that the wider your range, the tougher you are to play against. Now in regards to 4-betting ranges, would it not be better to have your range polarized towards nuts or air?

[DefiNe]

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Not meaning to hijack this thread...but this has been a subject I've been thinking a lot about lately. In general, common knowledge says that the wider your range, the tougher you are to play against. Now in regards to 4-betting ranges, would it not be better to have your range polarized towards nuts or air?

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Light 3-betting is profitable among other things due to definable opening ranges - exactly how light 4-betting can be profitable, among other things due to definable 3-betting ranges, so why apply any different concepts to 4-betting than you would to 3-betting?

[willw9]

4betting with JJ is pretty terrible against all but the biggest droolers. 4bet/folding JJ with these stacks against anyone is criminal.

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uh? dont 4bet here? hes shoving or folding so u making your hand a bluff...pick AA-KK-AK/air please

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are we levelling

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NO

[FishSticks]

Yah jacks is such a crappy hand to 4bet with for exactly this reason.

Are you in position? I couldn't tell if he was the button or the blind. It makes a big difference with what I want to accomplish with JJ preflop here.

I see people that 3bet each other relentless, but 4bet each other nearly never. If this is the case you guys have, I think you can make a painful fold here - but it's pretty marginal either way due to AK combos (as someone else ranged out above).

[DefiNe]

Why on God's green earth are we 4-betting here then? To define our hand? If so, LOL

For value damnit and that's why you presto call this like your life depends on it wtf