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Flopped set vs. a LAG\'s odd line
MP1 is running at 24/19/3 over 42 hands. He's obviously aggressive preflop and quite aggressive postflop. He doesn't peel a lot of flops and on the turn and river, he's is often betting/raising or folding. He has been to showdowns a little less often than I'd expect, but wins a lot of them.
Full Tilt 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, Hero calls. Flop: (11.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, MP1 checks. Turn: (5.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls. River: (7.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls. I planned on check/raising the flop since there is a lot for him to call with and worse hands that he can jam. When he didn't bet, I figured there was a good chance he has a higher set. With this particular Villain's reluctance to call bets on big streets, is this ok to balance value, or is it too weak? |
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Re: Flopped set vs. a LAG\'s odd line
At least C/R the river.
Edit: I think your mainstream and your alternative lines should meet up with a raise on the river. Babar, read his last sentence, focusing on "is this ok to balance" [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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Re: Flopped set vs. a LAG\'s odd line
jesus christ what are you doing??? missed flop c/r, okay fine it happens. b/3b or c/r the turn please and get some money in the pot!!!
edited to add more exclamation points and question marks [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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Re: Flopped set vs. a LAG\'s odd line
also 24/19 - not really a lag
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Re: Flopped set vs. a LAG\'s odd line
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jesus christ what are you doing??? missed flop c/r, okay fine it happens. b/3b or c/r the turn please and get some money in the pot!!! [/ QUOTE ] babar, what's your range here, even ignoring the read? |
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Re: Flopped set vs. a LAG\'s odd line
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I don't think you can put him on a set so easy. He might do the same with JJ or AA. Think he'd cap AQs? I think I'd lose a lot of money on this hand if he does have QQ/KK. I might figure it out when he caps the turn. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe thinking set is too MUBSy. Yes, I think he'd cap AQs. I could see him taking this line on the flop/turn with AQs/JJ as well, but I'm not sure if he is gonna call a raise with those hands if I check/raise the turn. If I donk the turn and get raised, I'm not so sure I want to 3bet though. [ QUOTE ] At least C/R the river. Edit: I think your mainstream and your alternative lines should meet up with a raise on the river. Babar, read his last sentence, focusing on "is this ok to balance" [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I thought about raising the river too, but I'm not sure if he'll call me with and I don't want to fold a set. I'd expect this guy to dump just about anything that I beat except potentially KQs (may not cap PF) or AA/AK, and I'm not sure why he doesn't just lead the flop with those three hands. |
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Re: Flopped set vs. a LAG\'s odd line
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When he didn't bet, I figured there was a good chance he has a higher set. [/ QUOTE ] I don't get this at all. He has an AF of 3. Do you consider him a backward player, checking monsters, betting crap? Definitely raise turn. |
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Re: Flopped set vs. a LAG\'s odd line
zeldark, no, it's not okay.
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Re: Flopped set vs. a LAG\'s odd line
also 42 hands isn't a sample of a size that we can justifiably make plays like this. 50/30 is a lag. i guess lags are rarer in fr though so i could give you an overaggro fit or foldy tag, but it's only 4-5 orbits and a couple better hands than normal distribution will easily give you those stats. either way, we have a set, get money in the pot, sheesh.
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Re: Flopped set vs. a LAG\'s odd line
argh, babar is going to bed before he gets too angry.
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