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Old 06-24-2007, 04:59 PM
DirteAA DirteAA is offline
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Default I really hate to fold here, but srsly wtf

Villain ~48/17/2. His turn cr % is tiny but wtf. This looks like a fkin monster to me. But he's sooooo bad.

I assume checking the turn is retarded, yea?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $680.95
BB: $193.00
UTG: $246.00
Hero (CO): $237.50
BTN: $213.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $6.00, BB folds

Flop: ($16) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $10.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $40.00</font>, SB calls $30.00

Turn: ($96) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $72.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $248.00</font>, Hero
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Old 06-24-2007, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: I really hate to fold here, but srsly wtf

Checking the turn is bad. Bet-folding to this heat is the play.
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Old 06-24-2007, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: I really hate to fold here, but srsly wtf

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Checking the turn is bad. Bet-folding to this heat is the play.

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umm. do you really expect him to be check calling this turn?

hes either folding(not likely) or shoving.
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Old 06-24-2007, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: I really hate to fold here, but srsly wtf

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Checking the turn is bad. Bet-folding to this heat is the play.

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umm. do you really expect him to be check calling this turn?

hes either folding(not likely) or shoving.

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Why wouldn't he check-call the turn? He had every opportunity to 3-bet or fold the flop and didn't. I'm expecting a check-call here the majority of time.
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Old 06-24-2007, 05:24 PM
Rainclouds Rainclouds is offline
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Default Re: I really hate to fold here, but srsly wtf

SB is taking the stack-a-donk line. I think a fold is best now, although it's tough to do that in the heat of the action.
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Old 06-24-2007, 05:53 PM
ajloeffl ajloeffl is offline
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Default Re: I really hate to fold here, but srsly wtf

Is it pretty standard to raise the flop here?

#1 you have position
#2 only one overcard can come
#3 you only have 1 pair so why build a huge pot
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Old 06-24-2007, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: I really hate to fold here, but srsly wtf

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Checking the turn is bad. Bet-folding to this heat is the play.

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umm. do you really expect him to be check calling this turn?

hes either folding(not likely) or shoving.

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Would you like to ellaborate? His vpip is &gt;40 so i really like a b/f here.
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Old 06-24-2007, 07:43 PM
Marshall28 Marshall28 is offline
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Default Re: I really hate to fold here, but srsly wtf

this is a sick spot, but i dont see how much more information you need to fold an overpair. the board is about as gross as it can get. i think youd have to have some type of read on this player that he is capable of doing this w/ air in order to call him down, and youd need a really strong read to do that. basically cuz the only drawing hands are like 67 57 43 53 63 etc ... and those are probably like 5% or less of villains range. everything else is made, and he HAS to put you on an overpair based on your line.
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Old 06-24-2007, 05:04 PM
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Default Re: I really hate to fold here, but srsly wtf

dont think you can be ahead here enough to call.. gotta fold it. sometimes youll get some 67 crap but i think its too often set straight and 2 pair
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Old 06-24-2007, 05:08 PM
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Default Re: I really hate to fold here, but srsly wtf

he's going to bet if you check the turn, and then you have even less idea where you're at when he bets. i bet the turn and then fold when he CRAI, i'm confident that my one pair is no good... bet-call-checkraise is a pretty strong line.
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