Preflop Question

[ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S]

Hypothetical theory-based hand:

6max (say .5/1 if it helps)

Hero is button at a great table. Has a fairly solid TAG image which is likely unnoticed. No relevant history against particular players.

UTG, BB + SB are all fairly similar, very LP preflop, and w/t passive postflop

Hero gets dealt 93o (or any 2 rags), UTG limps, 2 folds, Hero limps intending to use position to outplay postflop.

Thoughts? Is this standard? Or simply never worth it?

[Mr_Sterken]

never worth it.

[keikiwai]

yuck

if you're going to use position, use it from the beginning so raise pf, but that's a bad idea too, i fold

i don't mind limping behind w 98o or 97o though

[deaders]

noooooope

[nickg1532]

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yuck



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[redbeard]

i'd have to agree with the other posters. there is surely a better time to pick your spot on a position call here. small pairs, suited hands, and connectors come along frequently enough that you shouldn't be so bored as to think about playing this trashy a hand.

[filsteal]

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i'd have to agree with the other posters. there is surely a better time to pick your spot on a position call here. small pairs, suited hands, and connectors come along frequently enough that you shouldn't be so bored as to think about playing this trashy a hand.

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I don't think it's an issue of boredom for OP, it's just an issue of whether or not it's +EV to play the hand.

I doubt it, unless one or more villains is truly catastrophically awful at post-flop poker and/or life.

[wrschultz]

I think with hands like J9o, or KTo or something, overlimping is fine. Also 75s and hands like these are fine to limp along here. Total garbage is probably not going to be good enough unless your opponents are really THAT bad.

[ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S]

its not boredom at all, merely theory... but thanks for straightening this out.

keiki - i hate raising preflop against these vils, because they will call with their trash and then we are playing a big pot to which they are committed. the situation im bringing up is a kind of delayed blind steal, ive never really seen it discussed

my point was that i can try to limp in and then pot danger flops when checked to... one of those situations where cards dont matter.

[josh_x]

theoretically you can know them so well and play so much better than them that it is +ev, but such villains don't really exist outside hypotheticals