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Old 06-18-2007, 04:19 PM
DonLigretto DonLigretto is offline
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Default 5.5: Maniac goes all in at the beginning, call justified?

Hi

This guy raised all in for about three hands in a row. So I decided to call. He showed QJs and won of course. Should I have folded? Which hands would justify a call here? Only QQ+?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t25/t50
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1320
UTG+1: t1460
MP1: t3690
MP2: t235
MP3: t1205
CO: t1560
DonLigretto: t1375
SB: t1195
BB: t1460

Pre-flop: (9 players) DonLigretto is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
6 folds, <font color="#cc0000">DonLigretto raises to t150</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in t1195</font>, BB folds, DonLigretto calls t1045 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1395)</font>.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t2440, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t2440)


Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t2440, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t2440)


River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t2440, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t2440)


Results:
Final pot: t2440
<font color="#ffffff">DonLigretto showed Ah Kh</font>
<font color="#ffffff">SB showed Jc Qc</font>
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Old 06-18-2007, 04:22 PM
Kevin8423 Kevin8423 is offline
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Default Re: 5.5: Maniac goes all in at the beginning, call justified?

Calling this is fine IMO, but I expect a lot of people to like folding.
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Old 06-18-2007, 04:25 PM
RRizGod RRizGod is offline
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Default Re: 5.5: Maniac goes all in at the beginning, call justified?

Snap call normal 5.5 villian.
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Old 06-18-2007, 04:34 PM
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Default Re: 5.5: Maniac goes all in at the beginning, call justified?

folding here would be gross.
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Old 06-18-2007, 04:44 PM
DonLigretto DonLigretto is offline
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Default Re: 5.5: Maniac goes all in at the beginning, call justified?

So you're calling (even this early) in a tournament with AK (offsuit and suited), and QQ+? What if he raised to 1000 with a stack of 1500, would you have pushed?
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Old 06-18-2007, 04:49 PM
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Default Re: 5.5: Maniac goes all in at the beginning, call justified?

The fact that he is on ATC makes it a little different than if you had AKo the first hand against a shover readless.
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Old 06-20-2007, 12:29 AM
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Default Re: 5.5: Maniac goes all in at the beginning, call justified?

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Calling this is fine IMO, but I expect a lot of people to like folding.

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Old 06-19-2007, 10:02 PM
Prodigy54321 Prodigy54321 is offline
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Default Re: 5.5: Maniac goes all in at the beginning, call justified?

I'm calling with AKo, AKs, AA, KK, QQ, and JJ..given your "read"
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Old 06-19-2007, 10:48 PM
Kevin8423 Kevin8423 is offline
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Default Re: 5.5: Maniac goes all in at the beginning, call justified?

Depending on your edge over the field then you should definitley not be taking every slightly favored race you can find early on in the tournament. If you are no better than any of your opponents and won't have an advantage when it comes to push fold time then obviously you should take any 60/40 you can find.
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Old 06-19-2007, 11:51 PM
Jimmy James Jimmy James is offline
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Default Re: 5.5: Maniac goes all in at the beginning, call justified?

i'd fold. no need to go broke on the first few hands.
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