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06-16-2007, 09:09 PM
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Question for AC experts
This is not meant as a critique, rather I want to learn about your ideas.
You do suggest a free market with no government in any way, shape or form, right? Well, I heard some of you agree to a government that is there only to prevent violence. For those who don't, I ask, how do you suppose the free market will fight violence? Not just as good as our current system does it, but also how does it expect to get better in the future? And to all of you, how do you suppose the free market will adress subjects that affect everyone on varying degrees, and that can be exploited by some even if most take a stance, such as pollution, garbage recollection, fireproof buildings, common street lights, etc? 
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06-16-2007, 09:14 PM
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Re: Question for AC experts
In a free market system people can start selling their products and services to whomever thinks they are valuable. Is security your value? Then someone may just supply it. Is garbage disposal your value? Then someone may just supply it.
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06-16-2007, 10:23 PM
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Re: Question for AC experts
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In a free market system people can start selling their products and services to whomever thinks they are valuable. Is security your value? Then someone may just supply it. Is garbage disposal your value? Then someone may just supply it. [/ QUOTE ] Right, but if most people purchase those services, any one individual can take a free ride on the others' need. How do you theoretically solve this problem?
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06-16-2007, 10:30 PM
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Re: Question for AC experts
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[ QUOTE ] In a free market system people can start selling their products and services to whomever thinks they are valuable. Is security your value? Then someone may just supply it. Is garbage disposal your value? Then someone may just supply it. [/ QUOTE ] Right, but if most people purchase those services, any one individual can take a free ride on the others' need. How do you theoretically solve this problem? [/ QUOTE ] Why does it need to be solved?
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06-17-2007, 09:17 PM
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Re: Question for AC experts
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Why does it need to be solved? [/ QUOTE ] Because it's a relevant problem. And I don't see any plausible solution for it under AC.
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06-17-2007, 10:54 PM
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Re: Question for AC experts
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[ QUOTE ] Why does it need to be solved? [/ QUOTE ] Because it's a relevant problem. And I don't see any plausible solution for it under AC. [/ QUOTE ] What's the problem? You buy something, you get what you paid for, what you expected. So what if someone else gets a little bonus on the side?
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06-16-2007, 11:12 PM
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Re: Question for AC experts
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[ QUOTE ] In a free market system people can start selling their products and services to whomever thinks they are valuable. Is security your value? Then someone may just supply it. Is garbage disposal your value? Then someone may just supply it. [/ QUOTE ] Right, but if most people purchase those services, any one individual can take a free ride on the others' need. How do you theoretically solve this problem? [/ QUOTE ] What about the millions of people who get housing and food and medical care, etc, etc that are paid for with money taken from others (taxes). They are free riders. How do you solve this problem?
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06-17-2007, 09:20 PM
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Re: Question for AC experts
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[ QUOTE ] How do you theoretically solve this problem? [/ QUOTE ] What about the millions of people who get housing and food and medical care, etc, etc that are paid for with money taken from others (taxes). They are free riders. How do you solve this problem? [/ QUOTE ] You stop giving welfare, medical care, housing and food to them. While the homeless and the extremely poor will still be able to somewhat freeride, at least they have a very bad life, so it's not an incentive for people to want to take a free ride in those senses. Or you might aswell forbide people to live in a certain city/town/place if they don't pay taxes or if someone doesn't pay taxes for them (say in the case of children). You can't quite do that under AC.
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06-17-2007, 12:45 AM
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Re: Question for AC experts
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Right, but if most people purchase those services, any one individual can take a free ride on the others' need [/ QUOTE ] Besides Nat'l defense, what services do you see as possible free riders (I think the market can prevent Nat'l defense free riders too, but just to nail down what we're talking about here)?
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06-17-2007, 11:49 PM
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Re: Question for AC experts
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[ QUOTE ] Right, but if most people purchase those services, any one individual can take a free ride on the others' need [/ QUOTE ] Besides Nat'l defense, what services do you see as possible free riders (I think the market can prevent Nat'l defense free riders too, but just to nail down what we're talking about here)? [/ QUOTE ] If by that you mean National defense, no, I don't think the market can prevent free riders there. The same applies to many other general benefits like security, street cleaning and lights, fire fighting and prevention, road maintenance and building, safe construction, etc, etc, etc. It seems to me that the AC ideal is pretty much perfect aside from the free rider problem and land ownership-monopoly (these last two are only a problem when combined). Do you agree that these problems have no fix under the AC system?
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