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06-14-2007, 05:56 PM
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Pulling it Out before it Hits Bottom
I'm watching the US Open on ESPN and a few minutes ago I saw something that struck me funny. The golfer hit a short putt kind of hard and it slipped in the side of the hole. You could see the ball flash around the top part of the inside of the cup. Assuming he was making the putt, the golfer was moving to grab it out of the hole even before the ball reached the hole. It looked like he might have even grabbed it so fast he didn't give the ball a chance to reach the bottom of the cup. Like he grabbed it out of the inside of the top of the cup while it was still rolling around there.
Maybe he didn't really in this case, but theoretically I think it could be done. Does the ball have to settle at the bottom of the Hole before it is considered In the hole? If a golfer grabs it out of the top part of the inside of the hole before it reaches the bottom of the hole, should he call a penalty on himself? PairTheBoard 
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06-14-2007, 06:13 PM
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Re: Pulling it Out before it Hits Bottom
PTB,
No clue, in the thousands of putts I've holed on the course I've never seen or heard of it coming all the way back out. I see it once in a great while on the putting green, but those cups are often very shallow. Suffice it to say, unless it was really heinous there's no chance he'll be penalized for what he did.
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06-15-2007, 08:32 AM
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Re: Pulling it Out before it Hits Bottom
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I've never seen or heard of it coming all the way back out [/ QUOTE ] I saw this once. A guy I was caddying for hit a putt that fell right in the hole and popped back out. I couldn't believe it.
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06-15-2007, 06:04 PM
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Re: Pulling it Out before it Hits Bottom
It also happened to joe daley in Q school. he tapped a 2 footer in the center of the cup and it popped back out to rest on the lip. he missed making the tour by 1 shot.
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06-15-2007, 07:39 PM
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Re: Pulling it Out before it Hits Bottom
This happened to Ian Poulter about a year or so ago in a tournament. About a 5 foot putt. Hit it dead center, with just the right speed and it hit the bottom of the cup and popped out.
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06-16-2007, 03:36 AM
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Re: Pulling it Out before it Hits Bottom
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This happened to Ian Poulter about a year or so ago in a tournament. About a 5 foot putt. Hit it dead center, with just the right speed and it hit the bottom of the cup and popped out. [/ QUOTE ] I believe that this happened but I don't know how. I hit literally thousands of five footers from all sorts of angles at all sorts of speeds dead center every year. This has never happened to me - pretty amazing.
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06-16-2007, 09:31 AM
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Re: Pulling it Out before it Hits Bottom
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It also happened to joe daley in Q school. he tapped a 2 footer in the center of the cup and it popped back out to rest on the lip. he missed making the tour by 1 shot. [/ QUOTE ] Joe's putt was the result of the cup inside the hole not being installed properly. His putt went in dead center, perfect speed. It it the back of the cup that was not deep enough, and popped back out and hung on the lip. Sick. I'm happy to note that Joe did not shoot himself or anyone else after missing his card by one shot! side note on Joe. We were in S. Africa together, and I enjoyed getting to know him. He is one of the most organized, prepared people I've ever met. And the tightest! ex. A bunch of us are at a pizza place in S. Africa, where the food is incredibly inexpensive (and good). To save funds, Joe gets the soup. Everyone splits the tab evenly except Joe, because his part is considerably less. That's fine. But then he pulls out pencil and paper and begins to do the math to get it to the exact Rand his 15% tip! I think his lunch, tip included, was about a buck and a half! I always pull for Joe to make a good check. But I feel for his caddy!
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06-16-2007, 01:41 PM
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Re: Pulling it Out before it Hits Bottom
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[ QUOTE ] I've never seen or heard of it coming all the way back out [/ QUOTE ] I saw this once. A guy I was caddying for hit a putt that fell right in the hole and popped back out. I couldn't believe it. [/ QUOTE ] This happened to me once. I was pissed because I felt the holes were not installed properly at this course. The ball did not hit the bottom, rather it hit the top edge of the metal cup on its way down popped straight back at me and sat on the lip.
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#9
06-14-2007, 06:30 PM
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Re: Pulling it Out before it Hits Bottom
Holed
A ball is 'holed' when it is at rest within the circumference of the hole and all of it is below the level of the lip of the hole. From what you described all of the ball was likely below the circumference of the lip. If not you would think there would be a noticeable problem at the time.
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