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ridiculous dealer behavior at the bellagio
Bellagio 2-5. Two players in pot on the river. About 300 in pot. Sb bets all-in, 205. Player on button goes into the tank. Time passes, he's talking it through, deciding. No one at the table has a problem, no one says anything.
Out of the blue, the dealer announces the size of the bet again. Then he says he's putting a clock on the guy. Button asks "how long do I have?" Dealer replies "thirty second," looks at his watch. About this time I chime in. 1. Nobody asked for a clock. 2. Dealer cannot put a clock on a player. 3. Only the floor can put a clock on a player, and the floor was not called. 4. When the floor IS called, the player will get a minute, with a 10 second countdown. Dealer could give a rat's ***, that much was clear, but he starts yelling for the floor at this point. Meanwhile, the inexperienced player is confused and trying to figure out where he's at in the midst of my arguing with the dealer. He finally folds in what was a real hurry compared to his previous thinking. Dealer gets immediately pushed out. This is very unusual for a bellagio dealer to be this far out of line. I've had my ups and downs with the B, but generally they have some of the most competent dealers in vegas. Apparently this dealer was "new." This did go to the bossman, btw. Al |
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Re: ridiculous dealer behavior at the bellagio
You weren't in the hand. IMO your only role should be to mention this to the floor-person if you feel it's appropriate. Piping up with a list of rules makes you look like a jackass know-it-all to the dealer and a nit to the rest of the players.
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Re: ridiculous dealer behavior at the bellagio
Whether a person is in the hand or not should not stop that person from pointing out what is an obvious disregard for the rules by the dealer.
If nothing is said, this behavior will continue to exist. One should speak up for what is right, now for only what is right when it matters to you personally. |
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Re: ridiculous dealer behavior at the bellagio
I think piping up in the hand means Al was trying to protect a less experienced player from an out-of-control dealer who was trying to bully him. Al stated the player getting the time pressure from the dealer was inexperienced, so that guy may have no clue that what the dealer is doing is totally against procedures.
Thank you, Al, for sticking up for the newbs. I'm perfectly capable of fighting my own battles, but a helpful word or two from another player often does wonders to reign in a rampaging dealer or player and I always appreciate whatever support folks at the table want to offer. |
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Re: ridiculous dealer behavior at the bellagio
I always stick up for inexperienced players who are being done totally wrong. I make my living mostly from tourists, and someone has to stick up for them.
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Re: ridiculous dealer behavior at the bellagio
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I always stick up for inexperienced players who are being done totally wrong. I make my living mostly from tourists, and someone has to stick up for them. [/ QUOTE ] Something that I've written about more than once here is that the entire operation of cardrooms, including all the money earned by everyone working there, comes from losing players. The newer they are, the more likely they are to be in a losing mode. Everyone who works and plays in a cardroom needs to protect them. |
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Re: ridiculous dealer behavior at the bellagio
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You weren't in the hand. IMO your only role should be to mention this to the floor-person if you feel it's appropriate. Piping up with a list of rules makes you look like a jackass know-it-all to the dealer and a nit to the rest of the players. [/ QUOTE ] Wrong in SO many ways. A dealers job is to move the game along, not try to impose himself on the game, and cetainly not put undue pressure on the player. I am not suggesting this is the case here, but the dealer putting the lcock on somebody could be something pre planned between the dealer and a player at the table. Mos people seem to fold when they have the clock put on them, so the dealer could be working with the all in player. Or the dealer could be working with the thinking player, and reitterating the bet and calling the clock could be some sort of code. Once again, I am not suggesting this is what happened here, but it is not beyonds the realms of possibility that in some joints, players anddealers work together in such a fashion. |
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Re: ridiculous dealer behavior at the bellagio
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I am not suggesting this is the case here, but the dealer putting the lcock on somebody could be something pre planned between the dealer and a player at the table. Mos people seem to fold when they have the clock put on them, so the dealer could be working with the all in player. Or the dealer could be working with the thinking player, and reitterating the bet and calling the clock could be some sort of code. [/ QUOTE ] Wow, are you serious? As for the other comments in this thread, I think Al did the right thing. I am all for STFU when I am not in the hand, but I think this dealer crossed the line. |
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Re: ridiculous dealer behavior at the bellagio
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[ QUOTE ] I am not suggesting this is the case here, but the dealer putting the lcock on somebody could be something pre planned between the dealer and a player at the table. Mos people seem to fold when they have the clock put on them, so the dealer could be working with the all in player. Or the dealer could be working with the thinking player, and reitterating the bet and calling the clock could be some sort of code. [/ QUOTE ] Wow, are you serious? [/ QUOTE ] Yes I am serious. Do you think that a dealer and player couldn't work collusion in such a way ? Or even if there was no pre planned collusion, that a dealer who is friendly with a player might not try sending him 'vibes' not to call the bet. Again, as I said in my OP, I am not syaing this was the case here, just that it is a possibility. |
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Re: ridiculous dealer behavior at the bellagio
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I am not suggesting this is the case here, but the dealer putting the lcock on somebody could be something pre planned between the dealer and a player at the table. [/ QUOTE ] POB?? [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] |
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