Cold-calling w/ small pocket pairs preflop?

[infinity235]

Just curious because I ran into these situations a couple of times today...What do you do in these scenarios?

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is MP2 with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+2 raises</font>, 1 folds, Hero ???

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is MP2 with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, 1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button 3-bets</font>, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero ???

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 folds, Hero calls, 5 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB caps</font>, Hero ???

[kerowo]

Hand one is a fold. You want lots of people in with a PP to make up for all the times you won't flop a set.

Hand two is possibly a fold the first time round and probably a call second time around. You've got 4 people going to flop plus the dead money from the blinds.

Hand three is a raise pre-flop but as played is a fold, too much money.

[Buzz-cp]

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Hand two is possibly a fold the first time round and probably a call second time around. You've got 4 people going to flop plus the dead money from the blinds.



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If it doesn't get capped, we are getting 11.5:2 and we need 15:2. We need to make up 3.5 small bets.

If it does get capped, we are getting 13.5:3, we need 22.5:3. We need to make up 9 small bets. If we consider that this gets capped 1/3 the time, we are looking at making up 6 small bets post-flop. Sometimes we flop set &amp; they do too in which case we lose a lot.

Buzz

[infinity235]

raising 99 from early position is right then? SSH says thats only possible in loose games... well, it was a loose game anyways.

[Befolder]

SSH is like a comfortable diaper. Go ahead and use those guidelines until you establish a comfort level and confidence in your preflop play. Then start to forget SSH once you feel good enough to discard the diaper and go on what you've learned through your own experience and play. If you keep playing and growing, you'll get there and the freedom you get from that release is pretty nice. At least it was for me.

[Buzz-cp]

I think a lot of people generally here by default raise 99 because it has the equity advantage, and they feel comfortable playing it post-flop. If you limp in a tough game, you are asking to get isolated.

Buzz

[Buzz-cp]

diaper lol

[Niediam]

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raising 99 from early position is right then? SSH says thats only possible in loose games... well, it was a loose game anyways.

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99 does really well in multiway pots and headsup. Where you want to limp with it in EP is when raising is probably get the pot 4 handed or so. I don't really want to raise if I'm likely to be 3 handed OOP against fairly knowledgable players either.

[checkmate36]

Here are a few links from shillx who always has great advice on hands like the 3rd hand where hero holds a pair of nines.

If you click on the 2nd link I created and scroll down you will see this little bit of advice...

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If you limp with them, you should call all raises behind you.

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[Bona]

I fold 1 and two because of the potential that a) the action behind be may get stiffer than the hand is worth and/or not enough players will stay in to support the set value.

I raise number 3 and consider my options on the flop.