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06-11-2007, 01:06 AM
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The 10 college players I was most wrong about
Heres my list, feel free to add your own. Mine is going to be all NFL/NBA, but you can include any sport.
#10: JJ Redick- Its still early, so maybe I shouldn't count him yet. But I was firmly in the pro-Reddick camp(and I'm a UMD fan). I remember arguing last summer against all the people who called him just another Steve Kerr. I told them how Kerr never dreamed of scoring 25+ per game in college in the toughest conference in America, and that only a legit talent could do that. #9: Mario Williams- Like Reddick, this one is still way too early, which is why I have them as only #9 and #10 on my list. But I thought that he had to be the real deal if they were taking him over Bush. I thought he'd be DROY for sure. #8: Kenyon Martin- I only include him at #8 because he certainly hasn't been a total bust. But I really thought he'd be a superstar in the NBA. #7: Marcus Fizer- From the same class as Martin. I thought he'd be another Charles Barkley. I'm still not sure how these guys were so amazing in college yet so average(Martin) or poor(Fizer) in the pros. #6: Joe Smith- I am a Maryland fan, so what do you expect? #5 Carmelo Anthony- I have no clue why I felt this way, but I thought he'd be a bust. Looking back, it was probably my worst prediction on this list because all facts pointed otherwise. I was just biased and didn't like him I think. #4: Philip Rivers- If you remember correctly, he wasn't supposed to be a high first rounder until very late. In fact, Big Ben was very much thought to be the better prospect. Along with quite a few others, I thought he was a big reach. I thought he was a 2nd round talent. #3: Carson Palmer- With so much talent round him at USC, I thought he had to be just another product of the system. I thought that Leftwich was the best QB of that draft class. #2: Elton Brand- I thought he was a complete tweener and wouldn't be big enough for center or quick enough for PF. I thought Chicago made a huge mistake by not taking Francis #1(although I was obviously biased as a UMD fan and Duke hater). #1: Mike Williams- Minnesota decided to go with Troy Williamson, and he slipped to the Skins. I was so happy....and when they drafted Carlos Rodgers instead, I almost stopped being a fan. I thougt BMW was going to be huge on the next level. I thought it was ridiculous that he was falling due to poor workout numbers. After all, just look at what he did on the field. I still have no clue how hes so bad. 
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06-11-2007, 01:21 AM
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Re: The 10 college players I was most wrong about
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Also, haha at thinking Reddick was going to be good. [/ QUOTE ] Obviously I was wrong so far, but he averaged 26.8 points per game in the toughest conference in America, while being the main focus of the defense. Its not like there aren't any NBA calibre defenders in the ACC, so why wouldn't some of that translate to the pros? At worst, I thought he'd be Steve Kerr with better driving ability. I thought that people were unfair in evaluating him because A. He was white, so they automatically think hes not athletic and compare him to other white spot up shooters and B. He went to Duke and people hate Duke. I compared him to Ray Allen or Rip Hamilton. Like I said, I'm clearly wrong so far.
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06-11-2007, 11:42 AM
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Re: The 10 college players I was most wrong about
Redick is an A+ shooter and he's only been in the league 1 year.
He won't ever be an all-star, but he could be a quality contributer and a 12ppg scorer in the right situation.
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06-11-2007, 12:24 PM
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Re: The 10 college players I was most wrong about
Thay3R,
I know that your post was made in jest, and yes it was funny. But just to defend myself: Note: I fully realize that these numbers aren't verified, but at the very least they show that all 3 players are similar: JJ Reddick has a 33in vertical leap: LINK(6th paragraph) Rip Hamilton has a 29in vertical leap: LINK(1:34 mark of interview) Ray Allen has a 32in veritcal leap: LINK(5th post)
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06-11-2007, 07:30 PM
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Re: The 10 college players I was most wrong about
Assani here:
[ QUOTE ] Thay3R, I know that your post was made in jest, and yes it was funny. But just to defend myself: Note: I fully realize that these numbers aren't verified, but at the very least they show that all 3 players are similar: JJ Reddick has a 33in vertical leap: LINK(6th paragraph) Rip Hamilton has a 29in vertical leap: LINK(1:34 mark of interview) Ray Allen has a 32in veritcal leap: LINK(5th post) [/ QUOTE ] Assani there: [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] That's pretty cool that Oden is so athletic. I'm hoping the Blazers take him (and I expect they will). But I wouldn't worry too much about Durant's weaker performance. He's still going to be sick. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah... good post on TrueHoop about not reading too much into the draft combine numbers: Draft Combine Numbers Are Almost Pointless "On DraftExpress, Jonathan Givony makes the point that a player doing really well (Greg Oden) or really poorly (Kevin Durant) in the various measurements taken a few days ago in Orlando is no reason to conclude much of anything. After all, it's a contest to find the best basketball player, not the best jumper, lifter, or reacher. History, he writes, is littered with examples of front offices reading too much into these test results." -Al [/ QUOTE ] I searched for this post just to write about this. Seriously think about these two things for a second then tell me how accurate these tests are: -TJ Ford measured in as being slower in the various footspeed tests than Chris Kaman, Kirk Penney and Carmelo Anthony -That same Andre Iguodala who was robbed of the slam dunk championship a year ago, only recorded a 34 inch vertical leap, one inch more than J.J. Redick last year [/ QUOTE ]
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