Personal security, disaster prepardness, and what are you doing?

[guids]

something Ive been putting off for awhile is getting my disaster prepardness kit together, I have a crappy one, with some random stuff, water tabs, knife, cash, handgun, pancho, and flashlight/glow sticks. I want to put a more comprehensive kit together though, and would like to know what you guys think should go in it.


another thing I have put off is security for my apartment, I have a crude camera system, but I want to upgrade to something that Ic an check on the road with my PDA, there is a linux distro out there taht I will be using called zoneminder to get the cameras on the web. But what about other security? Ive heard shotguns are the best home defence, and Im not a big gun nut, but I wouldnt mind having the piece of mind, maybe with some non-lethal rounds? how abotu tazers? alarms? etc? any suggestions?

[milliondollaz]

guids man, sounds like you've got it covered.

the kind of event that would make a disaster kit useful is the exact kind of event that is impossible to plan for. i think if you have water, weapons and cash, you'll probably be better off than 99% of the people. it's like the guy hiking with a buddy who ties his shoes when he sees a bear. he doesn't have to outrun the bear, just his buddy!

are you keeping this stuff in your apartment, or in some other location near-by? or both?

any guess as to what disasters will come up? you thinking more natural disaster, or like, war and revolt stuff. or aliens?

[IggyWH]

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something Ive been putting off for awhile is getting my disaster prepardness kit together, I have a crappy one, with some random stuff, water tabs, knife, cash, handgun, pancho, and flashlight/glow sticks. I want to put a more comprehensive kit together though, and would like to know what you guys think should go in it.

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If such a disaster happened where you would really need such a kit, isn't the world already [censored] beyond repair?

For instance, what good would a kit have done to people in the 9th Ward of NO? I don't know, that's always been my opinion on things. I really don't see how a kit is going to help you out.

[guids]

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something Ive been putting off for awhile is getting my disaster prepardness kit together, I have a crappy one, with some random stuff, water tabs, knife, cash, handgun, pancho, and flashlight/glow sticks. I want to put a more comprehensive kit together though, and would like to know what you guys think should go in it.

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If such a disaster happened where you would really need such a kit, isn't the world already [censored] beyond repair?

For instance, what good would a kit have done to people in the 9th Ward of NO? I don't know, that's always been my opinion on things. I really don't see how a kit is going to help you out.

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a big part of how well these kits do their job is knowing how to use them, and being resourceful/creative. Ie, macguyver.


I have everything in my apratment right now, I actually forgot to ask that question too, should I have 3 kits, a car kit, one for the apartment, and one buried somewhere? What else should I put in the kits, Im going to a military surplus store tommorow to check more stuff out, 1 thing I dont have is a first aid kit. Any good books on the subject?


and if any of you gun guys would elaborate that subject, I have shot .22, a shot gun, and a revolver at the range (like 25 rounds). we had a gun range in HS, so Im a good shot with a .22. im thimking of finding a tactical shotgun w/ flash light, and a 18inch barrel? what else should I be going for?

[milliondollaz]

tactical shotgun w/ a light is obv. best choice, sound like you already know that.

next on the list would be a 9mm glock with an M6 light/laser combo, and a high cap magazine. you're going to be full of adreneline when the time comes, and a 9mm is easier to control, and you'll have like 33 chances w/ the high capacity magazine. plus a laser dot on somebody might be enough to stop someone w/out having to shoot. maybe. you can also get some P++ rounds in 9mm that are pretty lethal, enough that smart people still argue they are better to carry than a .40 cal. no comment on who is right, but they're in the same ballpark at least. the glock is also more portable and lighter, if you need to travel any distances.

a little disclosure though, i think this stuff can be fun to plan for and talk about, but i have absolutely nothing of hte sort. i keep a mag-light in my car, that's about it.

[guids]

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tactical shotgun w/ a light is obv. best choice, sound like you already know that.

next on the list would be a 9mm glock with an M6 light/laser combo, and a high cap magazine. you're going to be full of adreneline when the time comes, and a 9mm is easier to control, and you'll have like 33 chances w/ the high capacity magazine. plus a laser dot on somebody might be enough to stop someone w/out having to shoot. maybe. you can also get some P++ rounds in 9mm that are pretty lethal, enough that smart people still argue they are better to carry than a .40 cal. no comment on who is right, but they're in the same ballpark at least. the glock is also more portable and lighter, if you need to travel any distances.

a little disclosure though, i think this stuff can be fun to plan for and talk about, but i have absolutely nothing of hte sort. i keep a mag-light in my car, that's about it.

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What Im worried about is penetration, with a handgun, thats whay I dont want to keep them for home protection, and think a shotgun w/ non lethal is the best way to go.

[slamhound]

For a bugout bag you'll need a good first-aid kit. Also, your needs will vary pretty dramatically depending on whether you live in an urban area vs. a rural one.

I'm assuming you carry a cellphone, but I would put a prepaid cell in your bugout bag as well along with a map/compass. Also stick some meal replacement bars in your pack, you can eat them before they expire and replace them as needed (assuming you live in a fairly populated area where you'll have easy access to food).

I think preparing for the first few days (maybe a week) is all that's really necessary, considering that if the disaster is massive enough that you're unable to access supplies/shelter within a week, a bugout bag isn't going to do you much good for longterm survival.

Check this website out for a ton of good information.

[pig4bill]

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tactical shotgun w/ a light is obv. best choice, sound like you already know that.

next on the list would be a 9mm glock with an M6 light/laser combo, and a high cap magazine. you're going to be full of adreneline when the time comes, and a 9mm is easier to control, and you'll have like 33 chances w/ the high capacity magazine. plus a laser dot on somebody might be enough to stop someone w/out having to shoot. maybe. you can also get some P++ rounds in 9mm that are pretty lethal, enough that smart people still argue they are better to carry than a .40 cal. no comment on who is right, but they're in the same ballpark at least. the glock is also more portable and lighter, if you need to travel any distances.

a little disclosure though, i think this stuff can be fun to plan for and talk about, but i have absolutely nothing of hte sort. i keep a mag-light in my car, that's about it.

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What Im worried about is penetration, with a handgun, thats whay I dont want to keep them for home protection, and think a shotgun w/ non lethal is the best way to go.

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Personally, I don't want to shoot at a guy unless he needs killin'. Too much possibility of having the wrong rounds, or hitting him in the neck, etc, and don't want the liability. However, if the guy needs killin', then I need lethal, not non-lethal.

BTW, for people that have no idea where to start, Costco has a ready-made survival kit. This is in the Bay area, where earthquakes and riots have shown such things to come in handy, so I don't know if every Costco carries such an item.

[Ray Zee]

first bag is mostly stuff you would take camping. this is a backpack with what you need to live for two weeks.
then as much water as you can store if you are in a city as in a disaster nothing is going to come out your faucet or have electric or natural gas.
a supply of gasoline as electric outage means no pumps work to get a fillup if you must travel.
then what you need to be comfortable in your home for a few weeks without any services. a way to heat water, a light source, fire making essentials, food and water and warmth.
a weather band radio to get reports. which go out on noaa radio.

see you in the rubble

[lippy]

I watch Man vs. Wild religiously. I feel as though I am adequately prepared.