100NL I fold Overpair + 2NFD hear me out

[Ben86]

100NL Villian is unknown nothing too noticeable in the last 30 minutes.

I get red KK on OTB.

Villian raises UTG to 3.50, I make it 11.50 on the button. He calls 2 to the flop.

Pot 24$ - 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
he bets 14, i make it 45, he calls.

turn Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] He puts my last 62$ in and I fold

thoughts?

[wrkingtobegreat]

1) Raise to like 15 preflop (he is raising UTG and will call a bigger raise than usual)

2)Raise more on the flop- like 55. (you reraised his UTG raise, and he is donking the flop, again he will usually call a bigger bet)

3) As played turn is an easy call (you are most worried about QQs/other set here, NOT a flush) You have an overpair and are getting good pot odds. Horrible fold.

[fees]

uhm ur repop is fine, I guess the flop raise is big enough, folding here is insane call

[Casper05]

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folding here is insane

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[Ben86]

What takes this line and I beat it? Raise UTG, call a 3bet, Donk the flop, call a raise, donk the turn all in on scary board?

Ive shown nothing but strength and he keeps pushing the action.

[Nick Royale]

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What takes this line and I beat it? Raise UTG, call a 3bet, Donk the flop, call a raise, donk the turn all in on scary board?

Ive shown nothing but strength and he keeps pushing the action.

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The pot is too big to fold here with the 2nd nut fd and over pair. First of all, you almost have the odds to call even if you know he has a set. The only time the call will be huge -EV is when he has the nut flush or AdA.

He could easily push any hand he think he needs to call a bet with. The problem is that there are not plenty of hands you're ahead of except for retarded bluffs. I still call readless. I will fold this against some players though. I think you'll see a flush, AA/KK/QQ or a set a ton.

[NSM]

Would have liked to have seen more of your thoughts on what range you thought you were against. His push when the 3rd suit drops feels like a panic against what he is "protecting". Do you assume he has a set or AA? Not out of the question that he is playing A9 or JJ similarly? What about this board made you feel vulnerable with KK?

[Ben86]

His flop donk seemed like he was protecting a monster. Then when I raised and he called I thought "shlt, here goes another kk vs aa, maybe he has QQ. Then the turn came, shlt, now we dont beat QQ, and then he PUTS me all in because the board cant get checked through or he might get drawn out on.

[Ben86]

people dont just call 3 bets and raises oop and then put you all in on the turn without a monster, the more i think about it.. no... its still a bad call i made

[ikestoys]

why people worry so much about flush draws in reraised pots amazes me