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Old 06-07-2007, 06:46 PM
Casper0 Casper0 is offline
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Default A Severe Penalty - This hardly seems a fair outcome.

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this but since it happened at 'Event 12 - $1,500 No Limit Holdem 6 Handed' this seems an appropriate place.

How is this an even remotely fair outcome if the dealer of the broken table confirmed he had ~8000 in chips.


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A Severe Penalty
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A table is broken and players disperse to their new seating assignments. An inexperienced player arrives at his new table with about 700 in chips in his hand, puts them on the table, and reaches into his pocket for the rest of his chips (approximately 7000).

The players erupt, saying "You can't put chips in your pocket!"

The floor is called over and dealers on both tables are consulted as to what happened. The dealer on the table that was broken confirms he had approximately 8000. A penalty is warranted, and they rule that the 700 he put on the table will remain in play, but that the chips he put in his pocket will be forfeited.
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Old 06-07-2007, 06:48 PM
ifoughtpiranhas ifoughtpiranhas is offline
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Default Re: A Severe Penalty - This hardly seems a fair outcome.

OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGG. THAT IS CRAZEEEEEEE
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Old 06-07-2007, 06:49 PM
NicksDad1970 NicksDad1970 is offline
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Default Re: A Severe Penalty - This hardly seems a fair outcome.

It sucks extremely bad. But they usually scream those rules out for everyone to hear. Then repeat them when they move everyone from a table. There's nothign that could really be done.
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Old 06-07-2007, 08:32 PM
Zinzan Zinzan is offline
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Default Re: A Severe Penalty - This hardly seems a fair outcome.

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It sucks extremely bad. But they usually scream those rules out for everyone to hear. Then repeat them when they move everyone from a table. There's nothign that could really be done.

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Yeah, it seems like it's always made clear when the table breaks. I think one time, I threw my coat over my rack when I was changing tables, and the TD assistant immediately told me to uncover them, which I did (no penalty).

I can imagine that this kid either moved the chips to his pocket when he was between tables, or he had earphones on and never heard the instructions. Still, it's his responsibility to know the rules that are publicly announced.

-Z
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Old 06-07-2007, 09:15 PM
kerr kerr is offline
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Default Re: A Severe Penalty - This hardly seems a fair outcome.

Proof that so many players have no idea, even at the WSOP. I've played $50 tourneys at my local and even I know all chips must always remain in sight eg. no pocketing.

Penalty is warranted. People should learn the rules, eg. TDA would be a good place to start.
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Old 06-07-2007, 06:50 PM
ZPinhead ZPinhead is offline
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Default Re: A Severe Penalty - This hardly seems a fair outcome.

This is specifically called out in the rules. Chips go in your pocket, their dead.
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Old 06-07-2007, 07:04 PM
Wilpro Wilpro is offline
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Default Re: A Severe Penalty - This hardly seems a fair outcome.

Just shows how bad poker players are erupting at this poor kid. Yeah he did something wrong, but if i was at the table i would let it slide if the kid was nervous and stuff.
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Old 06-07-2007, 07:07 PM
Ontario_Tory Ontario_Tory is offline
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Default Re: A Severe Penalty - This hardly seems a fair outcome.

I thought the penalty was automatic DQ... Not chip in pocket, chip dead...

Didn't somebody get DQ'd from the main event last year for putting a chip in his pocket?
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Old 06-07-2007, 07:21 PM
MrFizzbin MrFizzbin is offline
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Default Re: A Severe Penalty - This hardly seems a fair outcome.

Third year in a row something like this has happened,

2 years ago chips went to bathroom
last year dude pockets them
nothing new at least 1 noob a year does it. (should have been a betting line as to the 1st event and chip level it would occur at.

Losing the chips are bad enough, but now he can't even keep the ones in his pockets as souvenirs.
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Old 06-07-2007, 07:27 PM
chicken10der chicken10der is offline
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Default Re: A Severe Penalty - This hardly seems a fair outcome.

There is nothing unfair here. The guy broke a set-in-stone rule. His ignorance of it is irrelevant.
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