NL 25: Big Mulitway Pot OOP w/ Suited Ace

[arras]

No reads, had recently sat down at the table. Is this a fold pre?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

SB ($31.10)
Hero ($25)
UTG ($24.50)
UTG+1 ($37.65)
MP1 ($13.50)
MP2 ($36.25)
MP3 ($25)
CO ($23.05)
Button ($28.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $2, Button calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero ?????

[Sun Wukong]

I call.
I'd have thought you've got implied odds to call this, I'm not a maths guru or anything but if you hit a nice flop it'll be perfect to stack a big pair IMO.
Just to clarify I'm looking for a str8/flush draw not just an ace.

[negtv capability]

AQs, I might call this w/ position and without the original raiser (no reraise, I guess) still to act behind me- considering there's 3 others in the pot.
But, as it stands- OOP and original raiser still to act- it's a fold, plus 8 x's the BB is not a sexy reraise to gamble vs.

[MarcusT]

I call and play the draw.

[Sun Wukong]

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AQs, I might call this w/ position and without the original raiser (no reraise, I guess) still to act behind me- considering there's 3 others in the pot.
But, as it stands- OOP and original raiser still to act- it's a fold, plus 8 x's the BB is not a sexy reraise to gamble vs.

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You're probably right and hands like this OOP are probably a leak of mine.
It's just at these stakes (where I play) I seem to get away with it. I dunno maybe it's costing me a little of my winrate I'll have to look at PT tonight and see what I find.

Just a quick question.

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I might call this w/ position

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I'd have thought this was an insta-call w/position. When wouldn't you call?

[MarcusT]

I think 3-1 pot odds is sexy enough to call. If MP1 calls you'll have 4-1. Why is position so important? If you don't have a flush or a good straight draw you fold, other than this the more people in the hand the better.

[CaptVimes]

Your getting almost 4to1 direct pot odds(more if you figure MP1 will call also) on your call with hand that can make a monster. Everyone involved in the hand is close to 100bb's. Its also a hand you can get out of easily if you miss. What more do you need to call this? I agree if you make top pair you need to tread very lightly. The only real consideration in calling or not is whether MP1 is going to push or re-raise which would suck.

Is this too loose?

[arras]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

SB ($31.10)
Hero ($25)
UTG ($24.50)
UTG+1 ($37.65)
MP1 ($13.50)
MP2 ($36.25)
MP3 ($25)
CO ($23.05)
Button ($28.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $2, Button calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $1.75, MP1 calls $1.50.

Flop: ($10.10) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $3.25</font>, MP2 folds, CO calls $3.25, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $7</font>, Hero only has one option here, no?

[MarcusT]

Yes, you'll push and play against AA and KK with pretty good odds.

[CaptVimes]

Shove if you think you have fold equity, which I don't think you do. Call, your odds are about right as you probably have 11 clean outs (8 clubs and 3 Jacks) to nut hands. Call a shove. Button shows here why you should not mini-raise.