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Old 06-05-2007, 05:30 PM
dtan05 dtan05 is offline
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Default TPGK vs fat donkey

60/14

this hand happened first -
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $588.00
BB: $1,725.23
UTG: $1,218.15
MP: $949.25
<font color="black">Hero (CO): $604.75</font>
BTN: $1,354.45

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $24.00</font>, 3 folds, BB calls $18.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($51) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $54.00</font>, MP calls $54.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($159) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $60.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $252.00</font>, BB calls $192.00

<font color="black">River:</font> ($663) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">MP bets $355.00</font>, BB folds

Pot Size: $1,018.00

Villain is BB in ^

Then, this happens

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $1,357.45
BB: $528.00
UTG: $850.54
MP: $1,191.65
CO: $1,000.25
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $899.30</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $42.00</font>, MP folds, CO calls $42.00, Hero calls $42.00, 2 folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($135) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets all-in for $808.54</font>

Pot Size: $943.54


Villain is like 60/14

WWYD!??! Easy fold pre? Easy fold flop?
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Old 06-05-2007, 05:58 PM
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Default Re: TPGK vs fat donkey

Dont fold pre.

Flop... meh, could he do this with worse Ax? Quite possibly. I think I call assuming CO folded, but id say its only slightly +ev and very high variance.
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Old 06-05-2007, 06:01 PM
lvl83 lvl83 is offline
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Default Re: TPGK vs fat donkey

Who are we kidding, if CO folds here I snap call this and feel pretty darn good about it
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Old 06-06-2007, 01:09 AM
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Default Re: TPGK vs fat donkey

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Who are we kidding, if CO folds here I snap call this and feel pretty darn good about it

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Old 06-06-2007, 12:25 PM
MychCumstien MychCumstien is offline
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Default Re: TPGK vs fat donkey

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Who are we kidding, if CO folds here I snap call this and feel pretty darn good about it

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I don't think this is ever a "snap call". To do so would be irresponsible. It's marginal at best. Sure, a lot of the time he may show the flush draw, but he'll also make this play with hands like AK, and AJ, in which you are a huge dog.

The villain is clearly a donk making this play. It's a common rook move "I flop 2 pair it must be good, oh boy is this great!"

In reality all he is doing is phishing for a set. He gets the hands that would normally pay him off to fold (except in this case), and normally only gets called by the hands that beat him. I imagine he goes busto frequently employing this strategy, i.e. open shoving in spots like this. He probably open shoves his over pairs like this as well. Very exploitable [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

tough break OP. I'd just "buddy list" this guy; follow him around and bust him up! There is no way the villain is a winning player.
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:43 PM
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Default Re: TPGK vs fat donkey

Snap call.
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Old 06-06-2007, 02:10 PM
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tough break OP. I'd just "buddy list" this guy; follow him around and bust him up! There is no way the villain is a winning player.

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how do you buddy list? is this an actual thing to make it so messages coming up letting you know where they are? if so please PM me and let me know
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Old 06-05-2007, 06:07 PM
farmslicer7 farmslicer7 is offline
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Default Re: TPGK vs fat donkey

I've seen a lot of idiots overbet A high flops with KK in hopes you lay this hand down. However, with that being said, I still don't like calling here.
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Old 06-05-2007, 06:09 PM
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Default Re: TPGK vs fat donkey

insta calllll and I probably RR pre with hopes of getting it in against tilting donk
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Old 06-05-2007, 06:12 PM
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Default Re: TPGK vs fat donkey

mike what happens if you blank flop lol. only hitting 1/3 of the tiem right
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