KQo from MP - Need turn and river help

[Bryan L]

I had no read on the CO as he had just posted. Was I correct to just call the turn raise after the CO wakes up? How about on the the river when you don't know if he is tight or loose. Thanks.

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.05.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO (poster) calls, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (11 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (7 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, SB folds, Hero calls.

River: (11 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls.

Final Pot: 15 BB

[fretelöo]

Looks pretty good. He could be semi-bluffing a draw, or raising the turn with a Q, but 2pr is relatively likely.

[tyler_cracker]

everything is totally standard until the river.

let's see. it's tough to put a range on an unknown calling a raise from a post, but as an approximation we beat:

QT (6)
76 (9)
= 16 combos

and lose to:

77 (3)
66 (3)
TT (3)
98 (16)
= 25 combos

i don't know that we're ahead enough to c/r the river, especially since i can't fold to a 3bet, but i can throw up in my mouth if it happens. hence, i think i would c/c the river.

in a bigger game i might donk/call in case CO was getting frisky with some kind of combo draw semibluff on the turn (with which he will call a bet but take a free showdown otherwise).

[fretelöo]

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everything is totally standard until the river.

let's see. it's tough to put a range on an unknown calling a raise from a post, but as an approximation we beat:

QT (6)
76 (9)
= 16 combos

and lose to:

77 (3)
66 (3)
TT (3)
98 (16)
= 25 combos

i don't know that we're ahead enough to c/r the river, especially since i can't fold to a 3bet, but i can throw up in my mouth if it happens. hence, i think i would c/c the river.

in a bigger game i might donk/call in case CO was getting frisky with some kind of combo draw semibluff on the turn (with which he will call a bet but take a free showdown otherwise).

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Him being a poster, I wouldn't exclude any suited 2pr hand that includes a Q from his range?

[Buzz-cp]

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Him being a poster, I wouldn't exclude any suited 2pr hand that includes a Q from his range?

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good point--I like a river raise now

[Buzz-cp]

even T7, T6

[tyler_cracker]

if we add Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], and Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], that's still 19 combos we beat vs 25 that beat us and i still don't c/r river.

[bozlax]

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if we add Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], and Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], that's still 19 combos we beat vs 25 that beat us and i still don't c/r river.

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Yeah, but if you include Q7/Q6/T7/T6/AT/A7/A6 that makes a bazillion that you beat vs. 25 that beat you. I can't believe that you're reducing a nickel-dime poster's range to 7 hands.