Dene Tribe's Poker Tournament Evaluation System is a Rip-Off

[Arnold_Snyder]

I like where Dene Tribe says "you may have already seen complicated systems" for evaluating poker tournament structures, as if there are lots of these types of tournament speed evaluation systems out there. As if there's no sense in crediting any individual author of such a system.

For the record, I developed the first such system and published it in my book, The Poker Tournament Formula, and to my knowledge no other book has yet been published with any similar evaluation system.

I've also published numerous articles on the importance of tournament structure on optimal strategy and skill requirements. The latest of these was "True M" versus Harrington's M: Critical Flaws in Harrington's M Theory, And Why Tournament Structure Matters.

Tribe's system is nothing more than a watered-down version of my "patience factor" method and the "skill level" system in my book. There is absolutely nothing original in his method.

If Mason Malmuth is the editor of the 2+2 mag, I consider his failure to cite my work a blatant rip-off.

I suppose we can expect a new 2+2 tournament book any time now with their "discoveries" about how tournament speed defines skill level and affects strategy, of course without crediting my work.

[Troll_Inc]

Actually I did poker tournament structure evaluation back in 2004, so you were second.

[Arnold_Snyder]

Published where? Please provide your citation.

[Troll_Inc]

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Published where? Please provide your citation.

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I published it on my computer, and burnt a disc as proof.

I sent it around to a bunch of friends, probably about the same number of people who read your book.

You're lucky I didn't file a patent or trademark it.

[moo321]

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Published where? Please provide your citation.

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I published it on my computer, and burnt a disc as proof.

I sent it around to a bunch of friends, probably about the same number of people who read your book.

You're lucky I didn't file a patent or trademark it.

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Are you actually citing this as proof? Can you get these friends to verify that they received this information in 2004? If you can, that's fine, but you have to admit "I wrote it on my computer" is pretty hard to believe.

And you also said that you did "tournament structure evaluation". Evaluating a "good" versus a "bad" tournament structure isn't anything new; it's specifically the strategy modifications based on the speed of the blind raises. Does your evaluation contain strategy changes related to the blind structure?

[BigAlK]

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Are you actually citing this as proof? Can you get these friends to verify that they received this information in 2004? If you can, that's fine, but you have to admit "I wrote it on my computer" is pretty hard to believe.

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Doesn't his username, "Troll Inc," adequately summarize his contribution and motivation in posting to this thread?

[Troll_Inc]

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Published where? Please provide your citation.

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I published it on my computer, and burnt a disc as proof.

I sent it around to a bunch of friends, probably about the same number of people who read your book.

You're lucky I didn't file a patent or trademark it.

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Are you actually citing this as proof? Can you get these friends to verify that they received this information in 2004? If you can, that's fine, but you have to admit "I wrote it on my computer" is pretty hard to believe.

And you also said that you did "tournament structure evaluation". Evaluating a "good" versus a "bad" tournament structure isn't anything new; it's specifically the strategy modifications based on the speed of the blind raises. Does your evaluation contain strategy changes related to the blind structure?

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Yes to all of these.

[burthoovis]

He sent me one.

I'll sell you my copy for $11.

[malo]

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Published where? Please provide your citation.

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I published it on my computer, and burnt a disc as proof.

I sent it around to a bunch of friends, probably about the same number of people who read your book.

You're lucky I didn't file a patent or trademark it.

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You seem peevish--perhaps because you lacked the discipline and motivation necessary to write a 365 page book, and get it published?

That is your problem, and certainly not a concern of Mr. Snyder's.

[Troll_Inc]

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Published where? Please provide your citation.

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I published it on my computer, and burnt a disc as proof.

I sent it around to a bunch of friends, probably about the same number of people who read your book.

You're lucky I didn't file a patent or trademark it.

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You seem peevish--perhaps because you lacked the discipline and motivation necessary to write a 365 page book, and get it published?

That is your problem, and certainly not a concern of Mr. Snyder's.

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That's funny, I guess I was too busy working on my Ph.D. thesis with 1000 references to bother publishing poker stuff. BTW, what kind of loser publishes poker stuff?

Also, I should point out that your husband started all this whinging. I was just pointing out that like my emails, noone read your husband's book and therefore it's going to be hard to know to cite him. That's the Truth Ruth!