3/6 AK Deep

Omniheart · #1 06-02-2007, 07:51 PM

Arg. Villian is 18/16 and i have been playing around 26/22.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $1,287.00
BB: $189.75
UTG: $968.00
MP: $637.60
Hero (CO): $1,197.40
BTN: $212.85

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, Hero raises to $21.00, BTN folds, SB raises to $80.00, BB folds, Hero calls $59.00

Flop: ($166) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB bets $120.00, Hero calls $120.00

Turn: ($406) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB bets $320.00 Hero ???

Hattifnatt · #2 06-02-2007, 07:56 PM

let it go.

Isura · #3 06-02-2007, 07:57 PM

I 4-bet this PF, and fold to shove. You put pressure on QQ-TT/AK. I really hate calling PF in this spot, since we never win that much with the best hand against the nit.

Omniheart · #4 06-02-2007, 08:09 PM

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I 4-bet this PF, and fold to shove. You put pressure on QQ-TT/AK. I really hate calling PF in this spot, since we never win that much with the best hand against the nit.

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yea I was going to 4 bet but forgot the stack sizes.

ikestoys · #5 06-02-2007, 08:19 PM

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I 4-bet this PF, and fold to shove. You put pressure on QQ-TT/AK. I really hate calling PF in this spot, since we never win that much with the best hand against the nit.

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with position, 4betting isn't mandatory

Omniheart · #6 06-02-2007, 08:27 PM

Do you guys think there is value in shoving at all? maybe a value bluff or if he has AA, is he instant calling me?

g0lfa · #7 06-02-2007, 09:35 PM

this is a pretty tough spot, i think you have the same hand 30-40% of the time here. personally i would call one more street, possibly fold river to more heat, but that seems pretty weak... im very interested to hear everyones line on this hand

aislephive · #8 06-03-2007, 12:42 AM

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I 4-bet this PF, and fold to shove. You put pressure on QQ-TT/AK. I really hate calling PF in this spot, since we never win that much with the best hand against the nit.

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I don't see why you would do this. Might as well have 27o to do this, only difference is that on occasion villain will flat call our 4bet and obv AKs > 27o. Still, it doesn't seem correct to 4 bet / fold AK under any circumstance. You should be 4 betting for value, not as a bluff.

I like flat calling preflop this deep. As played, it really depends on how you view each other. If he is extremely straightforward then I would fold the turn. Otherwise, I'm calling the turn and re-evaluating the river. The good thing about calling the turn is that when we are beat there are a lot of river cards that will scare better hands into giving us a cheap/free showdown, and he will very rarely continue a bluff at this point when we call big bets on all 3 streets.

Isura · #9 06-03-2007, 12:48 AM

Obviously he is going to flat call a bigger range than he shoves in this spot.

ArturiusX · #10 06-03-2007, 01:05 AM

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I 4-bet this PF, and fold to shove. You put pressure on QQ-TT/AK. I really hate calling PF in this spot, since we never win that much with the best hand against the nit.

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With this logic, wouldn't folding be better?