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Old 05-31-2007, 07:04 PM
bigfishead bigfishead is offline
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Default So U R going to LV During WSOP---STFU and watch!

Oh that often loved/hated wsop time in LV is here. I'm thinking I may post a daily/semi daily report on the idiotic things players are saying & doing that causes friction and often times makes you look foolish.

Here's jut 2 games from last nite:

3 handed 40-80 mix. Lets identify the players; Button (#1), SB (#2), BB (#3).

The button is going to leave after this hand. I already know that #2 is going to whine when I make my next move.

#1 leaves and I grab the button and toss it to #3.(remember SB goes on the button and acts first pf when headup) #2 doesnt get the button after having just posted the SB when going from 3 handed to 2 handed.

He starts bitching and I explain to him the rule is that no player can be force to take the BB 2 hands in a row.

He wants to go on the he has posted out of postion 2 hands in a row and it isnt equitable FOR HIM to have the BB without the button. Eventually we call the floor who tells him that "the dealer is correct".

He whines more & more, and I try to explain to him why/how and he continues to rudely interrupt me, when I finally say, "are you going to let me finish"? His response of course was "NO". Reflecting his ignorance of course. He eventually calls me an idiot, and I tell him, "sonny I've been in this racket longer than you've been alive." He makes a comment about me not "understanding poker", to that I must laugh.

Game down. (by the way, player #3 was Paul Darden who also told him I was correct)

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Ok next idiot from last nite.

10-20nl, On the turn, player 1 checks, player 2 bets, player 1 calls.

I put out the river card, and it goes check, check. I look up to player 1 and show my palms up to him suggesting he's 1st to show to wit he says " I called him" he shows first!"..."no sir, you checked, he called your check. The rule is 'He who initiates last action shows first'. A check is an action, you intitiated it first, you show first."

To wit he starts talking about it being the most fundamental of rules that we dont understand. "no sir, this is not New Jersey. We understand the rule and have not totally obliterated it".

The table tells him the check is an action and he shows first. Someone throws me a redbird and says "perfectly explained dealer, good job".

Naturally had there been an all-in on the turn that the bettor shows first. as on the river there is no further action.

Folks dont forget, your not in your local card barn. your somewhere else and must go by that particular rooms rules. so dont go spouting off about rules when you dont know what they are in the house your visiting. MOST of the time the people that play/work there full time know the rules.

The funny thing is fully 75% of the time these colorful interactions are from under 30's youngsters with big bankrolls that think they know something about poker because they've played for 2-3 years.

A word to the wise. Young ego's are very easy to smash and be put on tilt, losing entire bankrolls. Learn to watch, listen, learn, and stfu. Chances are you'll be a far better player for it.


On a side note, I wonder if I'll totally blow it and get a 3 day suspension from telling off one of these idiots due to the frustrations of 7 weeks of listening to this crap.
Funny thing is 1 LA pro whom I see 3-4 times a year in LV and call by name, even tho he is pretty much a stiff, says last nite in the 10-20nl that I am the most courteous and respectful dealer in the house nearly 100% of the time. And thus makes a comment that he could never do it. "thanks XXXXX, but theres times where I'd love to just break them in two! To wit he says there's countries where I think your allowed. "SIGN ME UP!"
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Old 05-31-2007, 07:19 PM
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Default Re: So U R going to LV During WSOP---STFU and watch!

i like this post.

are you working at rio?
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Old 05-31-2007, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: So U R going to LV During WSOP---STFU and watch!

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i like this post.

are you working at rio?

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I think he normally deals at the Bellagio.
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Old 06-02-2007, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: So U R going to LV During WSOP---STFU and watch!

After 55 posts, what was solved? Bigfishead dosen't like tourists who question the Vegas rules? The Vegas rules that are clearly wrong, but as a casino employee he must enforce?

In what way is a check UTG, check on the button last action by UTG? This is just nonsensical. There is a lot of discussion about house rules and how players should know them or accept them, but nothing about how players should raise holy hell about a rule this stupid.

If I check/call a raise with top two on a draw board and the draw comes in, why do I have to show first on a checked river? Because the button doesn't have the balls to bluff his busted straight on a flushed board?
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Old 06-02-2007, 06:51 AM
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After 55 posts, what was solved? Bigfishead dosen't like tourists who question the Vegas rules? The Vegas rules that are clearly wrong, but as a casino employee he must enforce?

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riiight

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In what way is a check UTG, check on the button last action by UTG? This is just nonsensical. There is a lot of discussion about house rules and how players should know them or accept them, but nothing about how players should raise holy hell about a rule this stupid.

If I check/call a raise with top two on a draw board and the draw comes in, why do I have to show first on a checked river? Because the button doesn't have the balls to bluff his busted straight on a flushed board?

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stay in NJ where they totally obliterated the essence of the rule. Since you fail to comprehend that "CHECK" is an ACTION. the first person that CHECKED, INITIATED THAT ACTION.

He whom initiated last action shows first.

back to reading comprehension class students.

No wonder I stayed away from this forum for so long.
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Old 06-03-2007, 08:21 AM
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No wonder I stayed away from this forum for so long.

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And you've been sorely missed. Your contribution to many threads, such as the angle-shooting ones, would have been invaluable. Please keep up the effort, we need to hear more from people that have been in this racket for longer than I've been alive [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 06-02-2007, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: So U R going to LV During WSOP---STFU and watch!

lol @ people arguing their local rule as a fact and a rule that should be used in every casino because its what theyre used to.
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Old 05-31-2007, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: So U R going to LV During WSOP---STFU and watch!

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i like this post.

are you working at rio?

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He is a very experienced dealer, so the answer is no.
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Old 05-31-2007, 08:35 PM
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To wit
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Old 06-01-2007, 08:02 AM
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