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Old 05-28-2007, 11:28 AM
edtost edtost is offline
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10/20 at the Borgata. The game is pretty good, with lots of calling preflop, but somewhat reasonable play after. I've been running well and playing a bit laggy and shown down winners that are a bit questionable, and I think most have noticed, though they're probably not actually adjusting.

I have 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in the hijack. 3 limpers to me, I limp, CO raises, button calls, BB calls, limpers all call, I call.

CO is the closest thing to a good player at the table, though he errs a bit towards tight/conservative.

Button is bad and very loose-passive.

limpers and BB are all generically bad and somewhat LP.

Flop comes 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Checked to me, I check to CO who looks anxious to bet. CO bets, Button calls, one limper calls, I raise, CO 3-bets, Button calls, limper folds, I call.

Turn is the A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. I check, CO bets, button looks excited and raises, I call, CO calls.

River is the 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. I check, CO checks looking very unhappy, Button bets, I call.

OK guys, tear me apart ... I see at least one misplayed street here, but felt not-so-good about a couple of others as well.
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Old 05-28-2007, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: possibly boring live 10/20

everything is totally standard until the river.

i would just donk that river. hopefully co makes a crying call with his QQ and then button does whatever.

i really don't get your c/c. (is it because the deck was fouled with a second 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img])
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Old 05-28-2007, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: possibly boring live 10/20

I agree with that cracker above me. Bet the river. Getting overcalled = as much money without risking a loss.
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Old 05-28-2007, 03:49 PM
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i might cap the flop. it often helps decisions later in the hand since you've shown so much strength.

i don't like the river c/c. bet.
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Old 05-28-2007, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: possibly boring live 10/20

James what do you think of a river CR?
--How much less or more do you like it?
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Old 05-28-2007, 07:51 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
James what do you think of a river CR?
--How much less or more do you like it?

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less.

the 6 pairing on the river will sometimes be a scarecard to people unless it helped them or they can beat trips. bet.
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:21 PM
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i might cap the flop. it often helps decisions later in the hand since you've shown so much strength.

i don't like the river c/c. bet.

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OK, so the river donkbet was the obvious thing here ... I'm suprised you were the only one who mentioned a flop cap, since that was the other street that seemed misplayed in hindsight. Is there any real reason not to cap the flop here?
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:28 PM
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Yeah, your PE is high but you won't get a free card and you only have 3 people in now. If everyone was in a cap would be really good in my opinion, as it stands I think it's close but I'd rather just call.
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:16 AM
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i might cap the flop. it often helps decisions later in the hand since you've shown so much strength.

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I thought this as well but then I decided OOP I'd rather preserve the ability to c/r on later streets. Then I thought about it some more and realized that most cards that helps us are obviously scare cards so now I'm hedging to not being sure. If Villain isn't passive enough to check the turn just because it's a spade then I think I like call and c/r better.

Can you explain which decisions later in the hand are helped by your flop cap? Surely we're not betting the turn 3handed UI are we? If we check that seems to make it obvious that we have a draw, helping them more than us.
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Old 05-28-2007, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: possibly boring live 10/20

If you didn't describe button as passive I would go for a C/R on the river. For this same reason I would donk the river because he might get frightened by the second 6.
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