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Old 05-27-2007, 12:35 AM
Dazarath Dazarath is offline
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Default 5/10 set hand

UTG is Gogol's Nose. At this point in the session, he had been playing very ABC and straightforward. I found out later that he can get trickier at times, but so far, he has not been. MP is just your run-of-the-mill donk. I'm not worried about him at all. My plan was to bet the turn for value (obv), with the intent to fold a shove from UTG. Sound ok?

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SB ($1817)
Hero ($4949)
UTG ($3110)
MP ($1064.05)
Button ($1314.70)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $36</font>, MP calls $36, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $26.

Flop: ($113) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $70</font>, MP calls $70, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $300</font>, UTG calls $230, MP calls $230.

Turn: ($1013) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $750</font>
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Old 05-27-2007, 12:37 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 set hand

fold to a shove!??@?!?@!? yopu guys are crazy. i'm praying to god that we get 600 bbs in here.
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Old 05-27-2007, 02:39 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 set hand

Plan sounds fine in these circumstances, nh.
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Old 05-27-2007, 02:53 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 set hand

So, you put UTG on KK if he shoves the turn?
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Old 05-27-2007, 03:13 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 set hand

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fold to a shove!??@?!?@!? yopu guys are crazy. i'm praying to god that we get 600 bbs in here.

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if a decent player is willing to commit 300 bbs here,are you not at all worried about 55,KK or 67?
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Old 05-27-2007, 03:14 AM
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So, you put UTG on KK if he shoves the turn?

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KK, 55, 67 (since the last of these is also feasible for op or MP this makes the fold easier imo).

Or do you think he often puts in 3 buyins with worse given this action in a three way pot? Even like AK hearts would be flat calling here. Folding to a shove is fine.
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Old 05-27-2007, 03:16 AM
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fold to a shove!??@?!?@!? yopu guys are crazy. i'm praying to god that we get 600 bbs in here.

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if a decent player is willing to commit 300 bbs here,are you not at all worried about 55,KK or 67?

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not enough to make it a fold
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Old 05-27-2007, 04:57 AM
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I think the villain would have to be a tard to shove the turn with AKhh. Plus, AKhh would rather get it in on the flop if he wanted to get it in at all. Aejones, you might forget that I don't have the same image as you. I think the villain knows very well that if he gets 300 BB in against me with a draw like that he only has 9 outs. I also don't think he ever bluffs after I've already committed 110 BBs. His shove would be purely for value, and I'd be drawing to 10 outs at best, more likely just 1.
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Old 05-27-2007, 05:01 AM
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i think you can fold to a shove this deep

but you should also lead the flop
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Old 05-27-2007, 12:58 PM
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fold to a shove!??@?!?@!? yopu guys are crazy. i'm praying to god that we get 600 bbs in here.

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huh? no...what kind of hands are we beating that will shove after this kind of action? Obv the turn card isn't the best either. I think you can fold to a shove, though it isn't the easiest fold
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