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Old 05-24-2007, 04:39 AM
betgo betgo is offline
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Default Button raises, SB calls, Q9s in BB

$100 MTT, 14 players left. Button is 21/12. Push, call, or fold?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t2000 (7 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button (t41418)
SB (t84516)
Hero (t32216)
UTG (t18116)
MP1 (t49678)
MP2 (t18208)
CO (t124620)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t6000</font>, SB calls t5000, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???
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Old 05-24-2007, 04:45 AM
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I shove this with ridiculous frequency

(unless SB knows that)
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Old 05-24-2007, 08:46 AM
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Default Re: Button raises, SB calls, Q9s in BB

100% player dependant
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Old 05-24-2007, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: Button raises, SB calls, Q9s in BB

This is really read dependant. I rarely ever squeeze here though because it's so obvious and people never fold to squeezes these days. But depending on your table image and read on the button/SB I definitely pull the trigger sometimes. In particular you need some read the small blind is the type to call a raise there too often instead of reraising, otherwise I'm really worried he has a monster.
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Old 05-24-2007, 09:18 AM
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Default Re: Button raises, SB calls, Q9s in BB

this spot is pretty good for squeezing light but i wouldnt automatically. if sb is a good player (im guessing hes not since the coldcall from the sb is usually pretty bad) i think hes calling us about 90% of the time since he will realize its a good spot for a squeeze and any hands he coldcalled with will have good enough equity vs our wide range. id tend to squeeze here a lot more often vs bad players.
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Old 05-24-2007, 09:23 AM
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Default Re: Button raises, SB calls, Q9s in BB

Isn't small blind aware of your agro tendencies and calling with AA here?

I fold this with two interested parties.
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Old 05-24-2007, 10:33 AM
BarryLyndon BarryLyndon is offline
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Default Re: Button raises, SB calls, Q9s in BB

Any reads on SB? Isn't that the most important part of this problem?
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Old 05-24-2007, 10:42 AM
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Any reads on SB? Isn't that the most important part of this problem?

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SB is unknown and somewhat LAG with big stack. My image is not aggro. I had limped 33 into SB'd BB and SB bet into me on flop and took pot.
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Old 05-24-2007, 01:22 PM
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Default Re: Button raises, SB calls, Q9s in BB

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Any reads on SB? Isn't that the most important part of this problem?

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I am not worried about SB at all. He has a big stack and the raise wasn't too big, so I'm pretty sure a shove will get him out.

The Button is concerning and reads on him are important IMO.

How often is the button raising when it's folded around? How active on the CO? If the button has been raising from LP, how much?

If the button has been quite from LP I insta-fold.
If the button has been making a standard 3x+bb raise from LP, I insta fold.

IMO, lots of conditions have to be close to perfect to risk tournment life on a shove here.
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Old 05-24-2007, 01:43 PM
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IMO, lots of conditions have to be close to perfect to risk tournment life on a shove here.

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IMO, anyone who uses the phrase "risking your tournament life" should not be allowed to post in this forum.

As far as the rest of your post... if button has been tight from LP you instafold... but if button has been making a standard raise frequently, you instafold as well? WTF? Where is the logic behind your thought process? You seem to be okay at assessing that, yes, the particular players on button and SB matter a lot, but you don't seem to know how to use that information to reach a conclusion about how to play the hand.
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