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Old 05-24-2007, 03:47 AM
aejones aejones is offline
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Default Theory- 3-betting is bad!

For a long time I thought about not sharing this information. Against the wishes of some of my closest poker confidants, I've decided to release valuable information that may revolutionize the poker community.

I've come to the conclusion that 3-betting is bad in short handed Unlimited Texas Hold Them. Contrary to popular opinion that 3-betting is good to get an aggressive image and put more money in the pot, it is actually bad! 3-betting was the new "fad" in poker just a few months ago, when people thought it was "good," but now that I've employed my super secret strategy of never 3-betting, I know that my results are better and therefore 3-betting is "bad." I do have some proof to back this up. If you look at the following chart, it is evidence that without 3-betting, you will automatically succeed in poker! These are my results from the past one week:



As evident from these results, not 3-betting is the new 3-betting! The quicker that you all pick this up and cease 3-betting, the sooner we'll all be filthy rich!

In case you don't believe me, I will show you the crazy, negative side effects of 3-betting. Here's what happens when you 3-bet me [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($2212.50)
SB ($2030.25)
BB ($434.50)
UTG ($2529.05)
Hero ($838)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $30</font>, Hero calls $30, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $130</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $100, Hero calls $100.

Flop: ($405) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($405) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $280</font>, Button calls $280, UTG folds.

River: ($965) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $428 (All-In)</font>, Button calls $428.

Final Pot: $1821

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 6s 7s (straight, seven high).
Button has Ts As (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins $1821. </font>

Top pair third kicker?! That's what you get for squeezing, you end up overplaying top pair no kicker! Some good poker players call this "kicker trouble." I always stay out of kicker trouble by calling preflop 3-bets with low cards, like a six and a seven, or a five and a seven!

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero ($1476.10)
SB ($1950.50)
BB ($571)
UTG ($1909)
MP ($329)
CO ($4012.10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $40</font>, Hero calls $40, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $160</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $120, Hero calls $120.

Flop: ($490) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $300</font>, Hero calls $300, SB folds.

Turn: ($1090) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets $3552.1 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $1016.10 (All-In).

River: ($5658.20) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $5658.20

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
CO has Qc Qh (one pair, queens).
Hero has 5c 7c (flush, ten high).
Outcome: Hero wins $3122.20. CO wins $2536. </font>

These guys are always overplaying their one pair hands! (something good players never do [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img])

However, I should show you the positive aspects of 3-betting... <u>just kidding</u>! Absolutely nothing positive can come from 3-betting!

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Old 05-24-2007, 03:51 AM
PerDoom PerDoom is offline
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Default Re: Theory- 3-betting is bad!

C
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Old 05-24-2007, 03:54 AM
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Default Re: Theory- 3-betting is bad!

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C

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I'm embarrassed, I thought it was at least mid B range.
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Old 05-24-2007, 06:22 AM
RaiseAndPray RaiseAndPray is offline
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Default Re: Theory- 3-betting is bad!

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C

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I'm embarrassed, I thought it was at least mid B range.

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B-
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Old 05-24-2007, 08:40 AM
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Default Re: Theory- 3-betting is bad!

i wonder if there is any thruth to this.

I'm from europe and when i play during the day, i almost never get 3bet. when i play evening/night (when americans are playing) i get 3bet constantly, it's sick.
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Old 05-24-2007, 09:04 AM
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Default Re: Theory- 3-betting is bad!

I'm first inclined to give it a B+, maaaaybe even an A-, but I think I've seen the hands posted before. BBV maybe? That brought it down to a B- for me.

Anyone that gives it a C is just hating imo. The PT screen shot is pretty funny.
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Old 05-24-2007, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: Theory- 3-betting is bad!

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i wonder if there is any thruth to this.

I'm from europe and when i play during the day, i almost never get 3bet. when i play evening/night (when americans are playing) i get 3bet constantly, it's sick.

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I try to structure my sessions so that I'm playing as much as possible from about 2 AM to 10 AM... this is like 9 AM to 5 PM for Europeans, and it's when most Americans are sleeping =P
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Old 05-26-2007, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: Theory- 3-betting is bad!

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C

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overrated
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Old 05-24-2007, 04:27 AM
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Default Re: Theory- 3-betting is bad!

BBV plz
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Old 05-24-2007, 04:33 AM
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Default Re: Theory- 3-betting is bad!

I actually thought this was real for like 5 seconds....im tired
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