Winning No-Limit without calling (ever)

[ATrebek]

Discussion with a friend - would it be possible to beat an average $1/2 or $2/5 game without ever calling a bet?

Every situation is a raise or fold.

No limping preflop.
No calling on draws.
No bluff catching on the river.
Etc, etc.

I think you would be giving up way too much value when calling is the correct thing to do to make any profit, friend diagrees.

FYI other players are playing 'normally'.

[Gonso]

Easily exploitable... an OOP opponent would only need to check/call you to the river, and then put you all in. You can't raise or call, so you'd have to fold your hand and forfeit the pot.

[ATrebek]

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Easily exploitable... an OOP opponent would only need to check/call you to the river, and then put you all in. You can't raise or call, so you'd have to fold your hand and forfeit the pot.

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I guess I should have been more explicit, since these scenarios came up in our discussion.

Hero must fold or raise *if allowed* Hero can call an All-In since he cannot raise in this case, hero can call if the betting isn't reopened to him.

Opponents do not know hero's betting restrictions unless they pick up on them through observation (ergo the "Average" $1/2 table part)

[killsadie]

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Easily exploitable... an OOP opponent would only need to check/call you to the river, and then put you all in. You can't raise or call, so you'd have to fold your hand and forfeit the pot.

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wtf.... only a moron would think this. please next time use your brain.

[bbartlog]

I think a lot of people would play *better* with this restriction. I've actually thought about doing this deliberately in PLO8 for a couple thousand hands, just as an exercise. But in pot limit you end up with a lot of situations where you have 40-45% equity and should call a pot-sized turn bet, but raising would be a big mistake. So it would be a big handicap there. Now no-limit on the other hand... I bet you could win.

[KipBond]

Well, you can do this with your good hands (big pairs, AQs+) but otherwise you will be spewing chips. And once someone figures out your strategy, you're toast.

[SplawnDarts]

At a typical 1/2, you could win money this way. At higher limits, not so much.

[Gonso]

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Easily exploitable... an OOP opponent would only need to check/call you to the river, and then put you all in. You can't raise or call, so you'd have to fold your hand and forfeit the pot.

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wtf.... only a moron would think this. please next time use your brain.

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Well KillSadie, I see you're still padding your post count with immature little one-liners. Let's look at your last batch:

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Tons of vegans are fake.

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this thread sucks.

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you know he was back on the streets in a day.

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yeah this was posted weeks ago. we all got over 200 million etc etc etc. no need for any of us to play it again. delete thread plz.

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WRONG

tl;dr

edit(read it): wow you owe that kid a [censored] laptop. people who feel the need to brawl just because they drank some beer are the [censored] of the universe.

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OP sounds like he drives a truck.

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BEST OOT TOPICS THAT END IN THE LETTER 'S'

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ive.. never heard of this. you probably created it yourself.


as for avoiding a slow roll, the only way to get slow rolled is if you call the last bet and flip your cards first for some retarded reason. problem SOLVED. so if you get slow rolled its your own fault. let it gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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These are your eight most recent posts, nine if you include trying to call me a moron. Do you ever have anything intelligent to say or do you just like playing on Mommy's computer?

[ATrebek]

So here is the prop bet we are considering:

Friend buys in to $1/2 NL game at local joint and plays by these rules:
1. No calling bets - must raise or fold. Exceptions are All-In bets or action not open to him for whatever reason.
2. He is allowed to check if no one else bets, but if someone bets after him he must raise or fold.
3. No limping preflop, must raise to $4 or fold.

He must show at least a $50 profit (game is $100-$200 buy in) and play for at least 4 hours. If he makes profit, I match it, if he loses money (more than $50), he pays me the amount he lost.

Sound fair/interesting/stupid/boring? I realize variance will play a larger role over one session that skill will, but it should be entertaining at least. I plan on playing at the table with him when he does this, but I will not intentionally exploit him.

[whaahhahahah]

i think rake will play a big part in this.

the other problem is that the typical 1/2 nl game live has 9.5 people to a flop. most flops someone bets.