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Old 05-22-2007, 12:33 AM
terencetsao terencetsao is offline
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Default flush on the river, call or 3bet?

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
10 players
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Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, 3 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5SB, 5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+2 raises all-in $0.6</font>, CO calls, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO folds.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5.7BB, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: 4.9BB, Sidepot 1: 0.8BB)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7.7BB, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: 4.9BB, Sidepot 1: 2.8BB)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">

It is very hard to put villan on a flush since i hold 2 already. I really want to 3bet the river, call or 3bet?
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Old 05-22-2007, 12:39 AM
MacGuyV MacGuyV is offline
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Default Re: flush on the river, call or 3bet?

Turn bet looks pretty bad into an empty sidepot?
I'd call the river. He bet the flop &amp; called down then raised exactly as a FD would. I can't see a runner runner straight or river'd QJ more often period, much less so much more often that you can withstand losing 4 bets when you're beat.
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Old 05-22-2007, 05:27 AM
fretelöo fretelöo is offline
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Default Re: flush on the river, call or 3bet?

Call and don't bet the turn. You have no edge whatsoever.
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Old 05-22-2007, 06:08 AM
Cueballmania Cueballmania is offline
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Default Re: flush on the river, call or 3bet?

Turn bet is standard if you don't have an all-in player. You have flush outs plus a gutshot to the nuts. Since there is an all-in player, there is no use to bet into such a small pot since the UTG+1 will very rarely fold due to the size of the pot. I'd raise the river.

If you raise, you will win two bets (his original raise and his call) but will lose three bets when behind (he 3-bets a higher flush).

Thus, if you think you are ahead more than 60% of the time, raising has a positive EV.
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Old 05-22-2007, 06:13 AM
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Default Re: flush on the river, call or 3bet?

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Turn bet is standard if you don't have an all-in player.

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No.
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Old 05-22-2007, 06:15 AM
Cueballmania Cueballmania is offline
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Default Re: flush on the river, call or 3bet?

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Turn bet is standard if you don't have an all-in player.

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No.

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How is this not a textbook semibluff when a semi-scare card comes?
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Old 05-22-2007, 06:36 AM
Niediam Niediam is offline
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Default Re: flush on the river, call or 3bet?

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Turn bet is standard if you don't have an all-in player.

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No.

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Yes.
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