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Villain 19/10/4, 150 hands.
Hero has been playing standard (nitty) TAG. Been 3b'ing a bit - even light once or twice - but not so much that villains would think I was really out of line. Although, you never know. First the hand, then the Stove... .................................................. Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> <font color="#C00000">MP ($50)</font> Hero ($68.20) Button ($54.84) SB ($55.40) BB ($49.30) UTG ($51.20) Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP calls $4. Flop: ($12.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $23</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: $44.75 .................................................. Hand 0: 54.830% { JJ+, 88, 66, 33, AdKd, AdQd } Hand 1: 45.170% { KcKh } ...or, add 99 and TT... Hand 0: 42.866% { 88+, 66, 33, AdKd, AdQd } Hand 1: 57.134% { KcKh } ...and here's one with a random bluff thrown in (unlikely)... Hand 0: 33.019% { 88+, 66, 33, AdKd, AdQd, J2s, J2o } Hand 1: 66.981% { KcKh } ................................................. Thoughts? Thanks. Edit: Meant to say those are Stoves with the flop out. |
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ugh, chomp you just cant fold this in a RR pot. fwiw, i rr to 7 pf to price them out of set mining even more. call and stack TT-QQ. youre giving up so much equity by folding here man.
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pls dont fold here
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ugh, chomp you just cant fold this in a RR pot. fwiw, i rr to 7 pf to price them out of set mining even more. call and stack TT-QQ. youre giving up so much equity by folding here man. [/ QUOTE ] I sure love quoting the guy who is totally right. Crazy on this forum how readily people are laying down big overpairs on boards like this. You have to call in many of these cases, and with KK it is as good a time as any to sniff out an inferior PP or flush draw in this case. |
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I cant lay this down, If I get stacked? Next>>>>>>>>>>>
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Tough spot.
If I could learn how to play these correctly I'd be a very rich man. As played, given villain's AF I'm leaning towards a shove. |
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I may be narrowing down too much, but with PFR of 4, you are looking at TT+ pretty much. I wrote a program just yesterday experimenting with hand ranges to determine exactly that question... I don't have the program handy, but I'm pretty sure TT+ accounts for 4%. In this case, there is only one hand that beats you in this range.
Here, I'd probably call and shove turn. You could also shove the flop, but he might laydown JJ and QQ. He might bet once more on the turn, and obviously if he has AA, nh, and move on. |
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[ QUOTE ]
I may be narrowing down too much, but with PFR of 4, you are looking at TT+ pretty much. I wrote a program just yesterday experimenting with hand ranges to determine exactly that question... I don't have the program handy, but I'm pretty sure TT+ accounts for 4%. In this case, there is only one hand that beats you in this range. Here, I'd probably call and shove turn. You could also shove the flop, but he might laydown JJ and QQ. He might bet once more on the turn, and obviously if he has AA, nh, and move on. [/ QUOTE ] My edit button didn't come up, so I have to reply to myself. I misread the OP Villian stats, and with 10% (not 4% that I originally wrote) we widen a little bit, but not where you think. Again, going from memory, but 10% came out to TT+, AJs+, AJo+, maybe other suited, connected broadways. He's not playing that strong though here without TT+. I'm really not going to be afraid of a set here unless I have notes on the villian or a wider range (15%+) that indicates he raises with little PP's from any position, and will call re-raises with them. Pokey has a great post where he broke down the PFR ranges by percent. You might look at that and keep it near your desk. Very useful! |
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all in without Kd, fold with Kd.
makes sense? |
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Folding here is so exploitable. I go broke every time.
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