50NL, SC, I played this hand bad...

kenadams · #1 05-19-2007, 04:08 PM

It's pretty clear to me that I played this hand pretty bad, but I'm not sure where to pinpoint the errors.

Villain is 22/16/3.5

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saw flop|saw showdown

UTG ($33.50)
MP ($35)
Button ($55.65)
Hero ($143.35)
BB ($60.09)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Button raises to $2, Hero calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, Button bets $5, Hero calls $5, BB folds.

Turn: ($16) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $8, Hero raises to $18, Button calls $10.

River: ($52) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $25, Hero folds.

My thoughts:
* Fold pf?
* If I raise the turn, I should lead the river?
* If I don't raise the turn, do I just call it down?

Comments appreciated.

Seeeno · #2 05-19-2007, 04:24 PM

22/16/3,5 i'm folding preflop to not be with a marginal hand OOP versus an TAG.
But i'm playing NL 10, far from NL 50

Debaser · #3 05-19-2007, 04:46 PM

Don't like pf flop much, esp. against solid villain oop but suppose doing it sometimes is ok to mix it up. I'd prefer to make a big 3-bet cos he could have pretty much any two here.

On the flop I'm having one pot sized stab (assuming you'd also do this with a ten) at it then I'm done with it. c/c on that board sucks donkey balls.

On the turn your hand is pretty much a total bluff and if you're gonna rep a ten you have to raise more. Nobody folds anything to a minraise ever.

Fold river obv.

Vyse · #4 05-19-2007, 04:49 PM

3bet PF or fold

Flop is fine -- a raise here doesn't accomplish much I think -- but you have to follow up that call with a bet on the turn. Pull the stop and go, and if he calls you're done with the hand.

tarheeljks · #5 05-19-2007, 04:56 PM

whether to fold pf depends a lot on button's blind stealing range. is he constantly hammering your blinds, so that your pt stats don't mean much here, or does his range only extend slightly?

i think the flop was the place to c/r. i'm not sure what you hoped to accomplish by raising the turn. did you mean to rep a T?

kenadams · #6 05-19-2007, 05:02 PM

Once the flop hit I felt I had to make a move at some point. I figure there's a good chance my sevens are good, but I don't want to call down with them so I wanted to pick the pot up somewhere before showdown.

Vyse · #7 05-19-2007, 05:07 PM

You have to tell a story he'll believe. A C/R on the flop would be fine, but you also better be prepared to follow up on the turn if villain is anything like I am imagining him to be. If you're going to call on the flop, you have to do something on the turn. In my experience, when I pull a flat call, check call, check raise from the blinds, it's not respected all that much, especially on a board like this.

tarheeljks · #8 05-19-2007, 05:13 PM

all the more reason to do this on the flop. by waiting until the turn, you are repping a T more than a seven. he's not going to fold to such a small raise unless he has absolute garbage. in this scenario you are raising the turn to drive him out not to inflate the pot, so the raise needs to be bigger (especially since you checked the flop). the only problem w/this is that it looks like a bluff.

JGroFaSho · #9 05-19-2007, 07:34 PM

I'd probably fold preflop but if I were to play it I'd probably bet out small on the flop and if he calls fire another small bet on the turn then slow down if he calls. If he raises I get out.

cooker3 · #10 05-19-2007, 07:54 PM

3 bet pf or fold, folding is the worst option for me by far.
Flop I am ok with, on the turn. If your going to make that move and as a default I wouldn't but make a proper raise.
Min raising is just spew, he doesn't fold anything you beat and you have turned your hand into a bluff. Raising there is very player specific, if he fires a lot of second barrells then maybe but in general I am not big on it.

Naturally fold river.